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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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You would forever need to be adjusting the percentage on the octopus app anyway since the Zappi is clearly not reading how much you battery has when you plugged in.
Thats true. I’m not sure I’m liking the Zappi/IO integration as much as the car/IO integration.

I’ve just noticed in the Tesla app it says 39kWh was added on the last charge session which is 65% of the 60kWh battery so much closer to the 60% I requested. Although it may have intended to add more and just stopped when it reached 100%.

The myenergi app says 43.46kWh so a loss of around 10%. Is that about right for this time of the year?
 
Thats true. I’m not sure I’m liking the Zappi/IO integration as much as the car/IO integration.
Some chargers actually read what the car has (from the BMS). However Zappy works in a different way anyway just like when you want to boost you have to specify how many KW you want to put in and there is no precise number you can put in (other than the increments)

Even though Ive got a Zappy, I actually enrolled my other charger (wallbox) as this was available when I enrolled and the Zappy wasn't available. It uses the OCPP protocol but the Zappy even though it Has OCPP, I dont think it uses it and its pretty much a case of giving out your login credentials for your myEnergy account?

Regardless. If you have a charger that integrates, this is always the better option specially if you have multiple cars.
 
Some chargers actually read what the car has (from the BMS). However Zappy works in a different way anyway just like when you want to boost you have to specify how many KW you want to put in and there is no precise number you can put in (other than the increments)

Even though Ive got a Zappy, I actually enrolled my other charger (wallbox) as this was available when I enrolled and the Zappy wasn't available. It uses the OCPP protocol but the Zappy even though it Has OCPP, I dont think it uses it and its pretty much a case of giving out your login credentials for your myEnergy account?

Regardless. If you have a charger that integrates, this is always the better option specially if you have multiple cars.
Yes part of setting up IO with the Zappi is logging in to the myenergi account.

I’ll persevere with it as it gives more options than the car/IO integration, such as being able to charge the car from solar if required.

I’ve pinged Octopus a message on X to ask them to add the RWD to the list.
 
I’ll persevere with it as it gives more options than the car/IO integration, such as being able to charge the car from solar if required.

I used to have two wallboxes. Removed one and put the Zappy in its place for this reason and for IO integration (which wallbox beat them to the game)

With exports payments the way they are at the moment, charging from solar actually is less financially viable and the Zappy is now just set to charge between 11:30 and 5:30 with most cheaper chargers can do anyways but if nothing else its more future proof.
 
I used to have two wallboxes. Removed one and put the Zappy in its place for this reason and for IO integration (which wallbox beat them to the game)

With exports payments the way they are at the moment, charging from solar actually is less financially viable and the Zappy is now just set to charge between 11:30 and 5:30 with most cheaper chargers can do anyways but if nothing else its more future proof.
My solar/battery install is just over a week old so I don’t have an export MPAN/tariff yet. Not that there’s much solar production at the moment, but as you said it’s future proofing and I’d like to get used to the most beneficial configuration in readiness for if/when export payments are not as generous.
 
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Hello everyone!
I hope this post is okay - if not, feel free to move it elsewhere / delete.

I have just switched to Octopus Energy and have been offered the IO Go tariff.

After sign up - everything seems to have “tested” and I have green ticks to tell me it’s all good. However - I can’t actually test my connection. The option is blank/greyed out.

Has anyone had this?/know of a fix?
Added a screenshot.

I’ve seen on Reddit a few get this issue in the past couple days, my car also (this morning) did the most recent update - not sure if this has affected the comms between the car and app?

Keen to utilise the cheap rate, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Hello everyone!
I hope this post is okay - if not, feel free to move it elsewhere / delete.

I have just switched to Octopus Energy and have been offered the IO Go tariff.

After sign up - everything seems to have “tested” and I have green ticks to tell me it’s all good. However - I can’t actually test my connection. The option is blank/greyed out.

Has anyone had this?/know of a fix?
Added a screenshot.

I’ve seen on Reddit a few get this issue in the past couple days, my car also (this morning) did the most recent update - not sure if this has affected the comms between the car and app?

Keen to utilise the cheap rate, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
A new version of the app is due to come out this week which should include the fix, according to O.E.
 
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Some chargers actually read what the car has (from the BMS). However Zappy works in a different way anyway just like when you want to boost you have to specify how many KW you want to put in and there is no precise number you can put in (other than the increments)

Even though Ive got a Zappy, I actually enrolled my other charger (wallbox) as this was available when I enrolled and the Zappy wasn't available. It uses the OCPP protocol but the Zappy even though it Has OCPP, I dont think it uses it and its pretty much a case of giving out your login credentials for your myEnergy account?
A Zappi feeds an electric car so will a Zappy also absorb byproducts from baby zoo animals?
 
Wondering if anyone recently found if this IO smart charging through the octopus app actually worked?

My “window” was 3am to 4am. I checked my phone at 3:20am and the car didn’t start to charge. So I manually charged it through the app.

To my understanding - I though the IO app does this through Tesla API?

Is best practice to setup a schedule through the car? (Doesn’t really make it intelligent)

Or perhaps I am doing something wrong
 
Wondering if anyone recently found if this IO smart charging through the octopus app actually worked?

My “window” was 3am to 4am. I checked my phone at 3:20am and the car didn’t start to charge. So I manually charged it through the app.

To my understanding - I though the IO app does this through Tesla API?

Is best practice to setup a schedule through the car? (Doesn’t really make it intelligent)

Or perhaps I am doing something wrong
To be fair, depending on how much charge you require, it may not always start at the start of the window. I have it quite often on long charges, it will put windows in from say 22:00-23:30, but will only actually charge for 20 minutes in that time period, and start at times not on the hour. I'm assumed octopus was doing this for managing load, and I don't really care either way cause I end up with full charge and get extra time at the cheap rate.
 
Some chargers actually read what the car has (from the BMS). However Zappy works in a different way anyway just like when you want to boost you have to specify how many KW you want to put in and there is no precise number you can put in (other than the increments)

Even though Ive got a Zappy, I actually enrolled my other charger (wallbox) as this was available when I enrolled and the Zappy wasn't available. It uses the OCPP protocol but the Zappy even though it Has OCPP, I dont think it uses it and its pretty much a case of giving out your login credentials for your myEnergy account?

Regardless. If you have a charger that integrates, this is always the better option specially if you have multiple cars.
Unfortunately, the AC charging standard doesn’t provide battery SoC data, so there are no AC EVSEs that can “read what the car has (from the BMS).” There are some, such as the Ohme, which integrate via the vehicle’s API to read the SoC data. A few of us have raised this possibility with MyEnergi, but they appear reluctant to invest the resources in adding in all the different manufacturer APIs.

I’ve been using the Zappi IO integration for the past couple of months and it has been pretty rock solid, far more reliable than the Tesla API integration I was using previously. The main issue is the target vs amount to add % setting. Needing to set the % in the app each time I plug in is a major faff and I can see a lot of people simply leaving this on 100%, or on what they’re ever going to most need on any average day, such as 50% if they don’t usually go below 50% SoC. In my case, I’ve ended up using some HomeAssistant automations to automate the setting based on the car’s SoC when I plug in. It works very well, however will be interesting to see whether this remains feasible when Tesla bring in their new API pricing.
 
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To be fair, depending on how much charge you require, it may not always start at the start of the window. I have it quite often on long charges, it will put windows in from say 22:00-23:30, but will only actually charge for 20 minutes in that time period, and start at times not on the hour. I'm assumed octopus was doing this for managing load, and I don't really care either way cause I end up with full charge and get extra time at the cheap rate.
Ahhh right this explains a lot.

IO started a charge for me at 11:30 but stopped after an hour. I didn’t know it would resume again so I manually started it thinking it wouldn’t start a charge

Simply put: I don’t trust the system enough yet. Maybe one night I just let it do what it needs to and see how it gets on.