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I got 8.0 yesterday. After a day of using it, here are my first impressions:
Good things:
TACC seems smoother
I like the new UI, especially the map enhancements
media app layout is nice
Bad things:
autosteer still under-performs relative to previous versions (7.1.2.28.19 is where my car started losing proficiency)
twice I've had AP disabled with no audible warning
more nags
one instance of media app refusing to play music from my phone
Overall, I like the redesign, but autosteer, generally, is getting worse as time goes by. At least in my car, lane keeping ability peaked at whatever version was just before 2.28.19 and has gotten much less capable since then. I'm also concerned about the lack of audible warning before disengaging and disabling AP. I have never ignored a nag before, but I usually don't see it. I am always watching the road, so I don't tug the wheel (usually hand is on the bottom of the wheel, but exerting no force) until it cuts the music and beeps. In 8.0, it has disabled AP several times without cutting the music or beeping. I just get angry red screen and AP disabled message. Honestly, I think it's much more dangerous the way it is now, but obviously, Tesla's lawyers don't agree. Has Elon said whether the nags will ever go away? Is that just a permanent part of AP with 1.0 hardware? Anyhoo, the car is still great, but I hope more AP improvements are coming in the future. Oh, one more thing. It's silly, I know, but I don't like that they took the little pictures out of the trip graphic in the small screen. It looks a little too blah now.
Good things:
TACC seems smoother
I like the new UI, especially the map enhancements
media app layout is nice
Bad things:
autosteer still under-performs relative to previous versions (7.1.2.28.19 is where my car started losing proficiency)
twice I've had AP disabled with no audible warning
more nags
one instance of media app refusing to play music from my phone
Overall, I like the redesign, but autosteer, generally, is getting worse as time goes by. At least in my car, lane keeping ability peaked at whatever version was just before 2.28.19 and has gotten much less capable since then. I'm also concerned about the lack of audible warning before disengaging and disabling AP. I have never ignored a nag before, but I usually don't see it. I am always watching the road, so I don't tug the wheel (usually hand is on the bottom of the wheel, but exerting no force) until it cuts the music and beeps. In 8.0, it has disabled AP several times without cutting the music or beeping. I just get angry red screen and AP disabled message. Honestly, I think it's much more dangerous the way it is now, but obviously, Tesla's lawyers don't agree. Has Elon said whether the nags will ever go away? Is that just a permanent part of AP with 1.0 hardware? Anyhoo, the car is still great, but I hope more AP improvements are coming in the future. Oh, one more thing. It's silly, I know, but I don't like that they took the little pictures out of the trip graphic in the small screen. It looks a little too blah now.
I don't know if you can compare the 7.x results to 8.0. @HankLloydRight or @dirkhh know much better than I but it could be a result of less people participating and comparing U.S. only to worldwide data.
jgs
Active Member
4) Some love for Media Player
But I've heard Media Player sustaining engineering is being moved to the Mars colony location, so we'll need to see #3 before we see #4.
Lightmatrix
Member
Has anyone noticed that you cannot change the account you use for streaming any longer? Or have I just not found it? It used to be under the "Apps" area, now all that you see there is the calendar and map "Apps"
Nikki's Dad
Member
With V8, I've noticed that the media player automatically reacquires a connection with my iPhone when I get back into the car and picks up playing where I left off. Under prior versions, I had to reconnect to the phone every time I got back into the car. One positive for the new media player...
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
Put the Media Player in full screen mode, go to Streaming, and scroll to the bottom.
You can with TuneIn and there is a place on Slacker to enter credentials but I can't get the tesla ID/password to work. To see it you should make MP full screen and scroll to the bottom of the page.
I haven't tried messing with the log in credentials but I assume the Tesla credentials are working or I wouldn't be able to skip as many songs as I like nor call up individual songs "on demand" - I don't think either of those work with Slacker "free" accounts, no?
Mike
GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
I had to search around for the login information. It is no longer under "apps" in settings. It is now within the media player itself. I forget exactly how to get to it, but it's there.
No you're right. The one I was interested in was the 320 Kbps, highest quality setting. In the old UI you could set it, in this one you don't have a visual indicator. Maybe Tesla defaulted everyone to 320.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
It's definitely not less people participating. I'm constantly seeing more new people register and add cars to the tracker. And yeah, 8.0 only seems to be rolling out to US and Canada right now... so I think comparisons to 7.x aren't really possible (I'm not following this thread that closely so I'm not sure what comparisons are being made).
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
I'm still on 7.1 because I refuse to lose my HVAC control. On 7.1, I'm using the Tesla credentials, yes.
jgs
Active Member
Not to say you're wrong to do that, but considering the release notes imply they've significantly rejiggered HVAC in general, it would be interesting to know if the settings you currently favor (recirc with fan at 3, right?) still map to the same comfort level, or if the current (recirc, fan at 4) might now provide acceptable comfort. This is the problem with software-defined control systems -- "it goes to eleven" today isn't the same as "it goes to eleven" yesterday.
Of course, I can't think of a way for you to find this out without taking the plunge, short of borrowing someone else's 8.0 car and driving it on your usual route.
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
I have a few friends with 8.0 and can talk to Charlotte Service about getting a loaner with 8 to test this out. If I don't freeze on recirc 4 in 8.0 like I do on recirc 4 in 7.1, I would be ok with it being remapped. But I definitely do not want fresh air and I feel hot on 1 and 2 in 7.1. Thanks!
In case anyone is unaware, my car doesn't have AutoPilot, so not upgrading isn't causing any seriously big loss thus far.
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
My reading of this:
1. Definitely a TACC slowdown, not AEB.
2. Hard to tell due to the compression, but was there something dark on the road? Looks like the camera may have identified that as an obstruction and triggered the braking.
I doubt it was a radar-triggered event. My guess is camera. In fact, once 8.1 comes out, I think there will be more reliance put on radar for TACC braking--which would probably eliminate this occurrence.
Thanks for the video. Helpful to see what happened.
vdiv
Chief Grump
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