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thegruf
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Boatguy
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Or the enhanced autopilot.. will they lift these restrictions and nags with enhanced AP?Yup. And lots of people think full self driving is right around the corner. Yeah, sure.
As long a Tesla can't be 100% accurate with the speed limits, they have no business being autopilot nannies. If the car doesn't know or has the wrong speed limit, I should be able to override their defective data. After all I am still the one responsible for the driving.
BozieBeMe2
May I have this dance?
We are on; 8.0 (v2.42.40) and I for one am looking forward to, CHANGE.
My issues are mainly with the AP. or as I call it,, ( -Auto Assist- )
Every since we down loaded v2.42.40, the car can not be trusted around semi trucks. If I approach a truck which is on the center line or over the center line, towards us, our car demands her 'Center of the Lane' stance. I can see from the car's ultra sound sensors, (which by the way, turn on around the rear tandems, then off, when passing the middle of the trailer, then back on again around the driver's door), that the car is aware of the truck, but refuses to give it any ground. It is so scary, that I just tug the steering wheel to disconnect the AP, then reconnect once we are past ANY trucks. I was thinking that when approaching a truck, that the software was suppose to allow for a 'nudge factor', when the sensors could not see an object under the middle of the trailer. Our car actually will drift towards the trailer, and stay there when approaching the fuel tanks. The sensors are a deep yellow at that point!
As a Foot Note, don't even ask me how well I like the 'Clearance Avoidance' BSM, features.
My issues are mainly with the AP. or as I call it,, ( -Auto Assist- )
Every since we down loaded v2.42.40, the car can not be trusted around semi trucks
. If I approach a truck which is on the center line or over the center line, towards us, our car demands her 'Center of the Lane' stance. I can see from the car's ultra sound sensors, (which by the way, turn on around the rear tandems, then off, when passing the middle of the trailer, then back on again around the driver's door), that the car is aware of the truck, but refuses to give it any ground. It is so scary, that I just tug the steering wheel to disconnect the AP, then reconnect once we are past ANY trucks. I was thinking that when approaching a truck, that the software was suppose to allow for a 'nudge factor', when the sensors could not see an object under the middle of the trailer. Our car actually will drift towards the trailer, and stay there when approaching the fuel tanks. The sensors are a deep yellow at that point!As a Foot Note, don't even ask me how well I like the 'Clearance Avoidance' BSM, features.
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mrElbe
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The sensors "sense" no obstruction between the trailer wheels and the tractor wheels because of the high trailer. If Semi trailers had guard rails like in Europe, then the problem would not manifest itself.
"Truck Lust" is a common problem. As you say, the car fully knows there's a truck next door, but the AP software steers towards it.
jgs
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The problem is, that same line of argumentation can pretty easily end up "... they have no business providing autopilot." I don't want them to cave in to fear of that perspective, but I acknowledge it exists and they have to manage it.
I've seen a lot of speculation in this thread that they were compelled by regulators to drop the max AP speed. It's a little surprising to have gotten no communication from Tesla about it though (yes I know they don't communicate effectively or well but they've often been better about AP changes). Lacking any official word, I think all we can say is "the latest version does this thing" but can't with confidence say why; it could even be a bug for all I know. Has anyone tried tweeting Elon about it?
jgs
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I'm somewhat hesitant since my car doesn't have it yet so it's second-hand info for me. But if nobody else does, I guess I will.
Edit to add: I did.
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cgiGuy
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Noticed an additional warning that I hadn't seen before. When overriding set speed on Autosteer (and I preseume TACC, but didn't try) it now says something about the accelerator being pressed and automatic braking will not occur. I'll snap a pic on my way home. Weather/traffic was too bad to attempt this morning.
BozieBeMe2
May I have this dance?
I like your definition of Truck Lust, but dislike our baby "Going to the Dark Side", destruction & possible death
WannabeOwner
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My speedo under-reports by 2MPH-ish - according to my SatNav. I don't want to waste time driving 2 MPH slower than the speed limit ... so if Tesla want to enforce that they definitely need to make sure that my speedo is 100% accurate at all times.
I don't have any complaint about the speed limit being enforced. Its always amazed me that this isn't a legal requirement for car manufacturers where the technology exists. If the speed limit is too low drivers should campaign to have it raised, but I can't see any reason to think it is acceptable to ignore it - flow-of-traffic is surely not a mitigation in law (even if it is a safety concern). I figure that Mr Nice Policeman is not going to bother with me doing 10% over, and I mostly do do that, but I can't see a problem where autonomous brings with it "speed limit never exceeded".
jgs
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This is apparently universal and by design. First thing I happened upon while googling it: Why Your Car's Speedometer Is Wrong
WannabeOwner
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My car mph is exactly the same as my two different iPhone apps. Could your difference be tire, wind or some other variable?
WannabeOwner
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Yes, could be tires. Its always been consistent, so I don't think wind (unless mine rather than the weather!!)
I just want to add that I am unhappy with the new speed limit maximum on local roads with AP. I was excited to get the update so quick but now I am dissapointed. Only old ladies drive the speed limit.