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First 40kWH delivery notice or email - who will it be?
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Rifleman
Now owns 2 Model S's!!!
I have always suspected that Tesla never really wanted to do the 40 kWh Model S, but felt that they had to have an offering at a lower price point to get people in the door. That strategy sort of worked for me, I ran the numbers, determined that I could afford the 40, so I put down a reservation. As it became more obvious that the winter highway standard charge range of the 40 is likely going to be closer to 100 miles than 160, I eventually concluded that the 40 would not do the job for me, as I drive 90 miles round trip one day a week, and a car with 100 miles range would not leave much room for error or battery degradation. Tesla lost my reservation when my repeated number crunching determined that I could not afford the 60, particularly with the higher than anticipated service costs.
If the 40 ends up having longer legs than I calculated, and it is still available when my Volt lease is up in 2015, it still may find a way into my garage. I have a gut feeling that the 40 is going to be a 2013 model year only car, and that after the first batch has been delivered, the 40 will be dropped from production. The fact that it will never be available in Europe is a good indicator of this.
If the 40 ends up having longer legs than I calculated, and it is still available when my Volt lease is up in 2015, it still may find a way into my garage. I have a gut feeling that the 40 is going to be a 2013 model year only car, and that after the first batch has been delivered, the 40 will be dropped from production. The fact that it will never be available in Europe is a good indicator of this.
arondaniel
Il Sessanta Caricato
I was told today that the factory will have finished building my car almost exactly two months from now. Oddly specific, but I'm very happy an end is in sight.
Hey Rifleman, on your 90 mile days is there any way to plug in at your destination?
Hey Rifleman, on your 90 mile days is there any way to plug in at your destination?
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hikerockies
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My interpretation was this was a general statement for 40 kWH. Today another Tesla person said my specific 40 kWH car should be delivered in second half of June. I had already been thinking about 60 kWH just to get supercharger capability and was getting tired of constantly moving delivery time for 40, so I just upgraded to 60. I dropped tech package since I had come to the conclusion that it just wasn't worth ~$4000. That made the price increase more tolerable.
Rifleman
Now owns 2 Model S's!!!
Sadly no. I have tried repeatedly to convince the company that owns the building I work in to install a charger in the lot, or at lease let me access a 120v outlet, but have been shot down every time. Even offering to pay for it out of my own pocket did not work. My my 90 mile day, I only spend 10 minutes at the second destination (just long enough to pick up my daughter from Grandma's house), and while I do have access to a 120v outlet at that location, 10 minutes of level 1 charging is not going to solve this problem
Today I heard good news regarding 40 kwh cars. I can't reveal the source but it's very reliable. 40kwh cars began coming off the line yesterday, 3/28. The cars are undergoing a careful review prior to TM sharing the news and notifying the customers. Battery pack weight of 40's and 60's is extremely close so crash testing won't be required prior to deliveries. If everything goes as planned, the first 40's could begin delivery in mid/late April. I understand some had anticipated this timing but now it's confirmed.
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I almost forgot: Air suspension 40's will be first, followed by standard suspensions, and red 40's are not in the queue yet.
This is consistent with my communication with Tesla. I had been discussing switching my color to red, and was told the window for making any changes was about to close. Decided to leave everything alone and just get my car. Finally makings 40's may also have something to do with the Tues announcement.... that all three models are in production, meaning the company is now making the mid volume, mid priced car as promised in Elon's 2006 secret plan blog.
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arondaniel
Il Sessanta Caricato
I switched to Red in December after the 2nd (3rd?) delay was announced. I've been waiting 18 months, I can wait another 2...
Only problem is, if they're rolling off the line now, why no EPA numbers?
FalconNinetyD
Active Member
Not identical, its just that the weight will be very similar, difference being on the order of 10 to minus 31 kg.
I think he'd read the press release. 40kWh is canceled, with existing orders fulfilled with 60kWh packs.
SUN-day Driver
Member
Speaking of weight, I am wondering exactly how the limiting will work. If they simply limit the battery to 2/3 of its capacity, that doesn't take into account the extra weight that the 60 kWh pack has over the 40, and the range will be less than it would have been with a lighter 40 kWh pack. The weight difference between the packs may not be much, but any reduction in range is concerning. I hope their algorithm to do the limiting considers the increased weight of the car so we get the same range we would have with the lighter pack.
While we don't exactly how they will implement the limiting, I'm hoping they will err on side of more than less. Meaning, a full charge could be a full range charge that we would have had to do on 40kw, but without the ill effects. The pack may charge to 50+ kw (a standard charge on the 60kw) and the software simply stops the car once 40kw has been used.
Even with the weight, the fact that the car most likely won't have any range degradation is a huge plus. Sort of like wear-leveling on an SSD for you techies.
Even with the weight, the fact that the car most likely won't have any range degradation is a huge plus. Sort of like wear-leveling on an SSD for you techies.
Couldn't they make a range charge a full standard charge (90% of the 60 kWh) and also leave more padding at the bottom? It wouldn't give you any more range after you ran to 'zero' but the car could sit idle for much longer before there were major issues with the pack.
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