How will that work exactly? In an emergency that “convenience“ pause might contribute to an otherwise avoidable accident. Or are you saying the car should only do that for “phantom” braking and not “real” emergency braking? Which makes no sense since if the car could tell the difference it wouldn’t do phantom braking in the first place!
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FSD Beta 10.10 Release Notes
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GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
Ummm, if it knew it was phantom braking it wouldn’t phantom brake.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Presumably it would be like FCW which warns you before automatic emergency braking (warning, I've never actually tested this and there is no guarantee that AEB will stop you in time!)
I doubt the car goes instantly from 0% probability of something in your path to whatever probability threshold they have braking set at.
For example in these cases does the car detect the oncoming vehicles as suddenly popping in to the lane or does it detect them as possibly being in the lane earlier?
That makes no sense to me .. chances are you already have your foot on the accelerator anyway, which means it’s far too easy to cancel by mistake .. I can just see the liability lawyers wringing their hands in glee.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
I don’t see that. They will make sure to include “experimental” and it could make mistakes etc.
"Special Limited Release Private Early Access Experimental Restricted Beta"
johnmodely
Member
Just got 10.10 looks like it’s finally going wide.
This might be an example of "Smoother fork maneuvers and turn-lane selection using high fidelity trajectory primitives." Notice how 10.10's planned trajectory doesn't suddenly jerk left to follow the turn lane:
FSD Beta 10.9 behavior:
EVJAutoJunkie
EV Junkie
I think this one may become a weekend gush. Especially because this version addresses the rolling stop recall made by Tesla.
Probably will follow the same conservative rollout schedule to avoid another 10.3gate. There is no need to rush since a normal recall involves sending letters in the mail, scheduling appointments and taking car to the dealership.
How the update queue at Tesla works is a little like Dark Matter, mysterious, indefinable but happens. Got 10.9 on day two. Wouldn't mind being later on 10.10 if I could be early for 11.0.
EVJAutoJunkie
EV Junkie
I am not seeing any pending update on my MS, but I also have an M3 that shows "In Service" status in the app. I don't know if the In Service status blocks any OTA updates until the car leaves the shop.
Does anyone have any insight on OTA updates as it relates to cars that are pending service?
Does anyone have any insight on OTA updates as it relates to cars that are pending service?
Reddy Kilowatt
Active Member
Our 3 is getting 10.10, but that is all.
Tesla was UNABLE to fix my right thumb wheel when a ranger came by to replace it. Claimed the switches were a different version. Neither switch worked after he swapped them. he was told to put the old ones back in the car. Today Tesla has the car in the service center. We will see what happens if anything. they are working on my endless "key not in car" message. They have replaced fobs 3-4 times with no luck. no sign of update on car, I wonder if they will simply attempt to reboot or reflash the software to be sure??
Tesla was UNABLE to fix my right thumb wheel when a ranger came by to replace it. Claimed the switches were a different version. Neither switch worked after he swapped them. he was told to put the old ones back in the car. Today Tesla has the car in the service center. We will see what happens if anything. they are working on my endless "key not in car" message. They have replaced fobs 3-4 times with no luck. no sign of update on car, I wonder if they will simply attempt to reboot or reflash the software to be sure??
Anyone here got to roll through stops? I feel like mine takes extra time stopper, even with no cross traffic, and people behind get annoyed (or at least I think they do)
This rollout is following the same pattern as others. Employees got it first, then yesterday a small number of customers got it. Last night, Teslafi showed installs + pending = 450. Today, roughly 12 hours later, Teslafi shows installs + pending = 450. So no one new is getting it so far today. I hope we might see a wider distribution over the weekend.
Among the 16740 cars on Teslafi, fewer than 2400 are in the beta. So very approximately, almost 1 in 5 have received 10.10 so far. The rest of us are waiting.
Among those who have installed it so far, 62% came from 10.8.1, 38% from 10.9. That ratio is not too dissimilar from the overall ratio of 10.9 to 10.81, so it appears that Tesla is not favoring one over the other.
I guess it should be obvious from those percentages that no one new is getting the beta yet. Perhaps that will change once 10.10 is distributed to all of the existing beta users.
Among the 16740 cars on Teslafi, fewer than 2400 are in the beta. So very approximately, almost 1 in 5 have received 10.10 so far. The rest of us are waiting.
Among those who have installed it so far, 62% came from 10.8.1, 38% from 10.9. That ratio is not too dissimilar from the overall ratio of 10.9 to 10.81, so it appears that Tesla is not favoring one over the other.
I guess it should be obvious from those percentages that no one new is getting the beta yet. Perhaps that will change once 10.10 is distributed to all of the existing beta users.
I got 10.10 last night. Today driving to work I'm getting intermittent "TAKE OVER IMMEDIATELY" red warnings with tones. These are happening at random times. I tried turning each safety feature off one at a time and was unable to stop this from happening. I also rebooted and powered down the car.
This happens on highway and city streets. It basically makes autopilot useless.
Hoping for a patch soon.
This happens on highway and city streets. It basically makes autopilot useless.
Hoping for a patch soon.
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