This is an interesting video for unprotected lefts especially when he gets into the frame by frame analysis where you can clearly see how the lack of cameras nearer the front of the car is a significant problem. But then I suspect most people already know that.
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FSD Beta 10.11
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These testers are definitely doing God's work with these drive loops. Very informative indeed.
However, I'm not sure some of us could get away with driving around the same block this many times without looking suspect. Some eager beaver neighborhood watch dog in my town would have called the cops on him after the third loop.
However, I'm not sure some of us could get away with driving around the same block this many times without looking suspect. Some eager beaver neighborhood watch dog in my town would have called the cops on him after the third loop.
Weeell, you know that there is no safety score impact of accelerating as fast as you like? Just have to plan not to swerve or brake fast at the end...Amen. I've been driving my Plaid like a high grandmother for the past two months. It's killing me. I have Honda Civics, Subaru WRX, Chargers, Mustangs, Corvettes and a bunch of other little cars that think they are fast start racing me and I have to let them go blow by me. IT'S KILLING ME!!!!!!!!
I'm not shocked, but I am disappointed. Just because it isn't surprising, doesn't make it normal or okay.And you’re shocked about a delay / missed dated ?
And supercharging opening dates. Often by years, at least in and around my area.
When was it ever promised? (I seem to recall a lot of qualifiers, like hopefully, etc...)
Getting Tesla to meet a date is like trying to nail jello to a tree
Having side cameras toward the front of the car can provide more visibility, but the root issue in that vid is that the car didn't creep forward enough to gain visibility; it just went. It's like it's not trying to use B-camera data at all. I've had plenty of RIGHT turns where the road I'm on is already bending right at a T intersection, so my driver-side b-pillar camera has straight-on visibility to the left. The car still hesitates like crazy. This seems to indicate it's just relying on front camera visibility, which in this situation would have a really hard time seeing to the left.
In our area, there are tons of places where the stop sign and line are way too far back to see anything, regardless of whether the cameras are at the B pillar or on the front bumper. You have to creep way past the stop sign.
Also, leaning head forward makes us feel like we have more visibility. But next time you're in a position to do that, just pay attention into how much more visibility you're getting. (It's not a lot).
My bottom line is the car cannot see as well to the left or right as I can when stopped at a blind intersection. The root cause has nothing to do with creeping since that can be corrected via software and I'm sure Tesla will improve it. Think physics "first principles" which Elon is well known for. What is the only thing with the current camera layout we know for sure. Camera specifics including viewing angle. Tesla's FSD engineers have to work within those constraints. Unfortunately I believe Tesla failed to use first principles correctly when locating cameras. Imagine how much creeping would be improved with cameras closer to the front. A lot.
I'm simply a better/safer driver in this particular instance. Tesla will get better but there is only so far you can creep into the intersection before you have to stop and make the decision to go or not. When I'm at a really blind intersection I will lean forward above the steering wheel which gives me about 30 inches of additional vision. I do this every time I leave my house when approaching a blind corner.
EVJAutoJunkie
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3rd-party polling data shows cars are being enrolled into the FSD Beta program on 10.11. Last VIN on Teslafi shows a car in Moscow.
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Tombolian
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Prolly an Oligarch.
Teslafi showed two batches of cars. First 230 and then 30 more. After that nothing.
You have to look at installed + pending, since some people install later.
PACEMD
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You might want to try liquid nails........Getting Tesla to meet a date is like trying to nail jello to a tree
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