FSD-beta 2023.6.15 rollout speculation

[J-a-x]

TeslaFi only shows ~50 installs and ~20 pending so it seems like its still a very slow cautious rollout...

 

[JulienW]

TeslaFi only shows ~50 installs and ~20 pending so it seems like its still a very slow cautious rollout...

While 23.12.x and Beta 11.3.6 are well proven Tesla probably still has to be careful of introducing an unforeseen popup bug because of integrating the 2.

 

[J-a-x]

Yeah... hope I didn't jump the gun by signing up. I just wanted to be on the list when it goes wide rather than being late to the party.

56 installed plus 21 pending = 77 total. Will post here if I see that start to increase.

 

[snovvman]

So what does FSD nirvana look like for those with the grayed out FSD Beta and the message "FSD Beta will be available in an upcoming software release"? Is it when 2023.12.10 with FSDb 11.3.6 is installed? That's when the toggle will become active?

A related question: I have 2023.12.9 nagging to be installed from prior to the subscription. Since it will be 2023.12.10, I presume I can safely allow 2023.12.9 (non-FSDb) to update? At the same time, might an non-b update now slow down the push of .10 to my car? (That is, Tesla somehow throttles the update frequency, so if I updated today, the car will wait a minimum period before the next update.)

Thanks.

 

[J-a-x]

Good question I recently installed the .9 release (last week?) and then sign up for FSD today. Not sure if the installation of a non beta release recently has any bearing on beta program acceptance.

I assume there’s nothing I can do now to apply for the beta program. Just wait and it will happen eventually?

 

[s00pcan]

This is interesting information. So you were on 2023.6.11 and subscribed to FSD? During this time, I presume "request beta" was not available? And tonight you got 2023.12.10 and was able to request beta 11.3.6? I am trying to get a timeline of your experience.

I am curious to know when the "request beta" option showed up after you subscribed FSD (while on 2023.6.11).

Thanks.


By the way, I am on 2023.6.11 with the car nagging to install 2023.12.9. I have held off waiting for FSDb. I just now subscribed to FSD, but "request beta" is grayed out so I am wondering when it might happen.

I have a new car that I got end of march. There's no "request beta" button any more. The only option mentining it was greyed out and did nothing. Then I was prompted to install the new firmware on the app and it allowed me to enable FSD beta once I got into the car.

 

[snovvman]

I have a new car that I got end of march. There's no "request beta" button any more. The only option mentining it was greyed out and did nothing. Then I was prompted to install the new firmware on the app and it allowed me to enable FSD beta once I got into the car.

Thanks. Did you buy the car with FSDb or did you later subscribe?

 

[s00pcan]

Thanks. Did you buy the car with FSDb or did you later subscribe?

Purchased it with the car.

 

[JulienW]

Thanks. Did you buy the car with FSDb or did you later subscribe?

You can NOT buy or subscribe to FSD Beta. You buy or subscribe to FSD Capibility package and hope Tesla grants you access to test FSD Beta.

 

[snovvman]

You can NOT buy or subscribe to FSD Beta. You buy or subscribe to FSD Capibility package and hope Tesla grants you access to test FSD Beta.

Agreed. I meant if he bought FSD with the car or later subscribed.

 

[J-a-x]

I’m surprise that hoping it’s the only way to get into the beta program. Isn’t there a way to apply?

Does Tesla send me the beta update first and then let me apply for the beta program or is it the other way around.

 

[snovvman]

Purchased it with the car.

Interesting. If you bought FSD with the car, I thought it would come with the FSDb track. It sounds like the car came with a non-FSD track until it updated. How long was it between delivery and the update that enabled the beta option? Just curious.

 

[snovvman]

I’m surprise that hoping it’s the only way to get into the beta program. Isn’t there a way to apply?

Does Tesla send me the beta update first and then let me apply for the beta program or is it the other way around.

Based on what I've read, Tesla has changed the beta program a few times. You might know about the safety score entry requirements in the past. Based on the recent posts in this thread, it appears that it's a matter of having FSD (buy or subscribe), then wait for the FSDb gods to smile upon you for the update, then FSDb toggle becomes available. So yes, Tesla has to push an update to you with on the FSDb track. There is nothing for you to apply.

 

[J-a-x]

OMG, my car is downloading the beta update now!
Now once that downloads/installs, I guess I drive around in my car safely for X number of miles until I qualify with a safety score that is good enough to try FSDb?

 

[uscbucsfan]

OMG, my car is downloading the beta update now!
Now once that downloads/installs, I guess I drive around in my car safely for X number of miles until I qualify with a safety score that is good enough to try FSDb?

No, you should have it right away. Safety Score isn't a thing anymore for Beta.

You'll have to enable it in settings.

 

[ItsErik]

Subscribed to FSD at 7:39 am local, updated to 2023.12.9 at 9am local, just flagged for the 2023.12.10 update and headed home to download and install.

 

[gtg465x]

Updated from 2023.6.11 to 2023.12.5 earlier today (update had been available forever, but was ignoring it), but wasn't finding 2023.12.10 until I went and hung out in my car for like 20 minutes playing with the new steering wheel controls. Installing 2023.12.10 now. Glad my subscription money didn't go to waste. I subscribed 12 days ago and thought I was going to end up being completely screwed.

 

[snovvman]

OMG, my car is downloading the beta update now!

Subscribed to FSD at 7:39 am local, updated to 2023.12.9 at 9am local, just flagged for the 2023.12.10 update and headed home to download and install.

Updated from 2023.6.11 to 2023.12.5 earlier today (update had been available forever, but was ignoring it), but wasn't finding 2023.12.10 until I went and hung out in my car for like 20 minutes playing with the new steering wheel controls. Installing 2023.12.10 now. Glad my subscription money didn't go to waste. I subscribed 12 days ago and thought I was going to end up being completely screwed.

Once 2023.12.10 installs for your guys, please report back if in fact FSDb can then be enabled. Thanks.

 

[uscbucsfan]

Once 2023.12.10 installs for your guys, please report back if in fact FSDb can then be enabled. Thanks.

There are numerous people on FB saying they took their first Beta drive today.

 

[mgs333]

Be careful out there everyone, a bunch of first time drivers using beta for the first time ever are unleashed on the roads today. (Including myself, I'm downloading it now)