FSD Subscription Timing

[PianoAl]

We're going to add FSD to Tessie (see sig) via subscription. She has software V2023.27.12 [Correction V2023.44.1].

1. If we order the subscription, will it be delivered immediately (in the past you had to play games with versions, etc.)?
2. How does the beta signup work these days?
3. Is the subscription per calendar month?

Thanks.

 

[TK211X]

How do you have 23.27.12 if you’re not subscribed? That version has 11.4.8.1.

1. In your position you will just get it.

2. Non-existent. If you want to be on the original FSD branch you would typically delay updates until it’s offered.

3. Calendar day.

 

[PianoAl]

Thanks, TK.

>How do you have 23.27.12?'

That was a mistake. I'd read the version for Nick. Is your answer still the same (I will get it immediately)?

 

[Scott Herbst]

no fsd software is associated with 2023.44.1.......so you will have to wait until fsd is assigned to that branch of software

2023.44.1 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2023.44.1 includes Single Pull to Start Autopilot, Speed Assist, Destination Charging Availability, Service Mode Improvements.

www.notateslaapp.com

 

[PianoAl]

So this advice still holds:

1. Install the first new software you are offered.
2. Decline to install further software while you wait.
3. Wait until there is a broadly released FSDb software version with a higher number than your software.
4. Subscribe.

 

[TK211X]

So this advice still holds:

3&4 pretty much unless you want something very specific.

 

[PianoAl]

Let's say I went ahead and ordered the subscription today, and it didn't install for forty days. Would I be charged for the FSD subscription even though I didn't have it?

 

[MP3Mike]

Let's say I went ahead and ordered the subscription today, and it didn't install for forty days. Would I be charged for the FSD subscription even though I didn't have it?

Yes, because you get all of the "production" FSD features instantly. (Essentially EAP and stop sign/traffic light recognition and reaction.) It is just FSD Beta that you might not get right away.

 

[PianoAl]

Ah, got it. It will stop at a traffic light, but it won't make a turn to follow the route.*

One reason we're getting it on Tessie is the difference between the two cars. You get used to the car stopping for a stop sign (Nick) and then you drive Tessie and it doesn't. Surprise! So even though we drive Tessie infrequently, it's a safety issue. Plus, my wife, who drives Tessie most, wants it.

*It looks like "Auto steer on City streets" is now included in regular FSD.

 

[Kimmi]

Last time I tried auto steer on city streets it felt like Joe Cocker was driving the car!

 

[Mardak]

no fsd software is associated with 2023.44.1

Seems like those sites need someone to manually label which version of FSD Beta is available. It should be 11.4.4 according to these pictures:

Subscribed to FSD for 2nd time

I tried FSD on a 2K mile road trip in May and wasn't too impressed. Eventually, I returned to Auto Pilot as FSD's unusual and unexplainable maneuvers bothered the wife and I gave up trying to explain why it did things. So we are headed back to Maryland to spend Christmas with the grandkids...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[TK211X]

Piano Man. Just send it, life is short. Go with the flow.

 

[PianoAl]

Pulled the trigger, thanks.

I can see that this could be totally confusing for a new purchaser, mostly due to arbitrary terms and version numbering.

 

[PianoAl]

Note that when I ordered it, I immediately got FSDb:

I thought that FSDb wasn't included in 2023.44.1. I took Tessie for a drive, and she does everything Nick does and has the ability to report problems when FSD is disengaged.

 

[Bigriver]

Seems like those sites need someone to manually label which version of FSD Beta is available.

I can confirm that although Teslafi doesn’t show any FSD Beta version associated with 2024.8.4 (my version), I just subscribed to FSD and got FSD Beta 11.4.9.

 

[JulienW]

I can confirm that although Teslafi doesn’t show any FSD Beta version associated with 2024.8.4 (my version), I just subscribed to FSD and got FSD Beta 11.4.9.

No need to confirm since that is 100% normal and happens with every new release. it always takes a few days or longer before beta is added on their site. In a day or 2 it will say Beta 11.4.9 that same as all others.

 

[Bigriver]

it always takes a few days or longer before beta is added on their site. In a day or 2 it will say Beta 11.4.9 that same as all others

Or longer is the key phrase here. I got this version 8 days ago and there is still no FSD version noted in Teslafi.

 

[Bigriver]

No need to confirm since that is 100% normal

And yes, I wanted to confirm because there was some conflicting guidance in this thread, indicating it might be possible to get a FSD version without it being FSD Beta. I don’t think that is ever true any more.

 

[JulienW]

Or longer is the key phrase here. I got this version 8 days ago and there is still no FSD version noted in Teslafi.

True but ALL versions that Tesla releases (for the last few months) contain FSD Beta.

 

[Bigriver]

True but ALL versions that Tesla releases contain FSD Beta.

Yes, I understand that now, but Tesla doesn’t tell you that. Thus the value of these forums. This thread was the most helpful I found on the subject. Sorry that you found my post adding no value.