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EVNow
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Most of the YouTube FSD beta guys seem to be quite bad. Average at best. So can’t say the bigger group would be any worse.
Besides, Tesla has much better data of over 2k testers.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
They certainly don't seem like the safest drivers...
I wonder how many miles the 2000 testers have actually used FSD Beta since the "no accidents" claim seems statistically impossible if it's any reasonable amount.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Well - FSD beta + manual interventions could be quite good. We don’t have much data on that - so nobody knows what the expected value for accident rate is.
This tweet is in multiple other threads but it belongs here as well.
Will the FSD newbies be under NDA?
Will there be a new batch of FSD beta videos from new folks with mad video skills?
It's all pretty exciting!
Will the FSD newbies be under NDA?
Will there be a new batch of FSD beta videos from new folks with mad video skills?
It's all pretty exciting!
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Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Could be! I would love to know the stats.
For reference Waymo's collision rate in Chandler was 1 per 340k miles with a safety driver.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Most FSD beta testers might be using it for 10 miles or less of city driving a day. Its a lot more easier to concentrate for 10 miles a day than if you are a minimum wage employee working 8 hour shifts.
I don't think 2M miles that 2k fsd beta testers may have put in over the months can be compared to 2M miles a handful of Waymo (or Cruise etc) testers drove working day in and day out.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Still convinced this guy is a troll (possibly TSLAQ!).
"Bicyclist cuts across the street going the wrong direction and #fsdbeta handles it like a champ."
Could have just continued straight with no problem but decides to change lanes to get closer to bicyclist and then brake for no reason after they're no longer in the way.
"Bicyclist cuts across the street going the wrong direction and #fsdbeta handles it like a champ."
Could have just continued straight with no problem but decides to change lanes to get closer to bicyclist and then brake for no reason after they're no longer in the way.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
I've to say all the youtube testers are a LOT more risk tolerant than I'm. I don't think I'll be using FSD beta (until it gets better!) in the kind of dense environment they do.
rxlawdude
Active Member
"Food" chain seems a bit generous, no? I can't remember the last time anyone said "let's go to Cinnabon for dinner." You?
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Do you have kids ?"Food" chain seems a bit generous, no? I can't remember the last time anyone said "let's go to Cinnabon for dinner." You?
Definitely kids had "lunch" at Cinnabon (in food court, actually).
KArnold
Active Member
I didn't save the video, but was on AP, using a suburban 3-lane, one-way street yesterday - a kid ran out across the street a lot closer to me than that bicyclist. AP did put on the brakes before I did. No FSD - 2021.32.22. I'd say that's a real case.
I was purposely trying to be non-descriptive, and food chain was as generic as I could think of in the moment.."Food" chain seems a bit generous, no? I can't remember the last time anyone said "let's go to Cinnabon for dinner." You?
EVNow
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EVNow
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Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Like a champ!
It did slow down after changing lanes. I swear FSD Beta can only see 200 feet ahead which coincidently is the maximum distance shown on the display.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
BTW - if you search YouTube for "Tesla" you will see 99% of the videos are sensational (atleast the titles are). So are mainstream articles on Tesla.
Basically people figured out Tesla & Musk attract clicks. So, people use them as click-baits. This has been a boon and a curse for Tesla.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
How to get clicks for your video:
1. Pose a nerdy looking guy with a shocked expression pointing at a Tesla.
2. Have a catchy title like, “Why you shouldn’t buy a Tesla.” or “Will it cost you more to own than a Kia?”
1. Pose a nerdy looking guy with a shocked expression pointing at a Tesla.
2. Have a catchy title like, “Why you shouldn’t buy a Tesla.” or “Will it cost you more to own than a Kia?”
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