Knightshade
Well-Known Member
You get the same thing today on the public releases.
Folks with the same car in theory who insist AP, or NoA, or whatever is totally useless garbage and others that use it constantly with great results.
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You get the same thing today on the public releases.
Folks with the same car in theory who insist AP, or NoA, or whatever is totally useless garbage and others that use it constantly with great results.
True, but I'm hoping that with side-by-side footage of the exact same street we (The Impartial) shall be able to see for ourselves and determine who is correct. I don't know that we've had dual FSD Beta's running at the same time before.
I wasn’t around for the AP1 release, so I appreciate that information. With that being said, I’m not so sure that the AP1 release is a worthwhile comparator for the current FSD situation. (It very well may be, but I don’t know anything about what level of beta testing had been done with AP1 prior to release, how polished the software may have been, etc.) I hope Tesla isn’t relying on “we did this with AP1 without major issues, so let’s do it again with the FSD beta” logic.
I am anxious to see how things go this weekend and I hope my fears are completely misguided and unrealized.
You are absolutely correct - I have no idea what Tesla actually knows; and, my thoughts are solely my opinion. I am merely speculating in much the same fashion and in much the same manner that people frequently do on this forum.
To the extent there are any children reading this (who are younger than EVNow’s kids) who mistakenly relied on my post believing it to be fact, I sincerely apologize for leading you astray.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
I don't think they would have been led astray if you have not used all caps to shout that Tesla KNOWSTo the extent there are any children reading this (who are younger than EVNow’s kids) who mistakenly relied on my post believing it to be fact, I sincerely apologize for leading you astray.
The sooner FSD beta rolls out to the “public,” the sooner YouTube income from FSD beta videos will dry up.
Certainly hoping to get FSD in an early phase but like many others I suspect Tesla will scale back from 1k new testers per day to something more reasonable at least for the first couple of weeks. I'll be interested to see how FSD handles the first turn from my house using the B pillar camera and the front facing camera. My greatest concern is not FSD software which I'm sure will continue to improve but the forward cameras that require so much creeping. Tesla is usually proven right so I guess I'll remain optimistic but would certainly think improved camera locations would have made FSD software easier to develop.
First picture is taken leaning way forward in the driver seat and I still needed to creep further out before turning. Then got out of my car and took a picture showing how far in the street I was. Note the steep hill (13%) above which is blind to my intersection coming down until your over the hill. My first edge case will be 50 meters from my house
First picture is taken leaning way forward in the driver seat and I still needed to creep further out before turning. Then got out of my car and took a picture showing how far in the street I was. Note the steep hill (13%) above which is blind to my intersection coming down until your over the hill. My first edge case will be 50 meters from my house
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jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
I think that it's interesting that Chuck did a few videos with his daughter as a passenger and he immediately opposed wider release of the FSD beta. I'm speculating that Chuck may have asked his daughter whether she would be comfortable using the FSD beta in its present state. I'm also guessing from her comments in the video that her answer would be no.
GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
I love the arrogance that he is totally fine with it but doesn’t feel others can handle it.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
I think that he's worried that some testers will cause serious crashes and sink the whole beta test.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Dude was both a commercial airline pilot, and a naval aviator.
It's not like his qualifications to think he might be a safer operator than average is "managed a Cinnabon at the mall"
Truth be told I only worked as a cashier at the Cinnabon but why make it personal
(ok...don't know what cinnabon is but that seemed something funny to say so I hope that is a retail store)
powertoold
Active Member
Fsd beta expansion is another act of Elon's hubris, imo. He's no stranger to big risk and bold plays. His hubris has burned him (and us) in the past, but many of us like his boldness and risk-taking. Any great person will have a large following of lovers and haters.
If you look into the psychology of that its pretty common among humans. That we're often hypocrites where somehow we should be allowed to do something, but not others. I can't say I'm any different. You do not get my chocolate because you just can't handle it, and you probably would savor it anyways.
In any case we already know FSD beta won't be released to just any schmuck as you'll have to have a pretty good safety score. Now sure the whole safety score is a complete debacle, but it does show Elon at least wants to pretend to limit the initial release to people who can be trusted. Or at least wants to give the appearance of that.
I don't feel they'll actually release the FSD beta to the safety competition winners in its current form. Instead they'll put limitations on it. I have absolutely nothing to back up this feeling, but I'm sticking with it.
It's food chain dedicated to people who have opted in for a heart attack.
He is not the only one. What these guys are saying, a wide release will increase the chance of an accident or death, given the current state of the software. It requires you to be ultra focused in some situations and be ready to take over. Some can handle and some can't. It is the latter group that will end up in accidents and the media FUD noise will be deafening, and we will be left wondering why did they ever release this to a larger group.
Saul Goodman would be perfectly qualified to test fsd!
It’s possible the influences are being told to influence since now Elon can say he is listening to feedback from his Testing team and it’s not ready and it needs two weeks.
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