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FSD Transfer Offer - COMPLAINT wrt totaled car
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stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
Terms do not exclude salvage, so I don't think the salvage status matters in this particular case.
Whomever has the title at time of transfer. Issue for me was insurance claimed the car before Tesla could deliver the new one.
I'm glad I didn't try this with the FUSC (free unlimited supercharging for life) transfer offer for my Model S, which was totaled by a drunk driver two weeks before end of the Q2. That offer also didn't require the vehicle to be traded in, merely that the FUSC would be stripped from the existing car, so technically I should have been able to transfer to a new Model S.
In my situation, my insurance declared the vehicle a total loss with two weeks before quarter-end; however, their local office didn't have any appointments available for me to come in to sign my title over, so it was a full month that the car still was in my ownership while sitting at the salvage lot. Even the original tow from the accident was not their tow truck driver, it was one the police called (though my insurance will cover it) - and I had to go to that tow lot to release the vehicle to my insurance, whereupon they towed it to their lot (a generic salvage lot).
So I wonder why the cutoff criteria is when the insurance tows it, and which tow in my situation would be considered. Also, how does Tesla even know the car has been towed by insurance, let alone that it's in an accident? In OP's case, it sounds like he wasn't getting his payout til the following week, so he hadn't signed his title over...or was the vehicle still on a financing lien, whereupon it's technically owned by the bank (my car was fully paid off with clear title)?
In my situation, my insurance declared the vehicle a total loss with two weeks before quarter-end; however, their local office didn't have any appointments available for me to come in to sign my title over, so it was a full month that the car still was in my ownership while sitting at the salvage lot. Even the original tow from the accident was not their tow truck driver, it was one the police called (though my insurance will cover it) - and I had to go to that tow lot to release the vehicle to my insurance, whereupon they towed it to their lot (a generic salvage lot).
So I wonder why the cutoff criteria is when the insurance tows it, and which tow in my situation would be considered. Also, how does Tesla even know the car has been towed by insurance, let alone that it's in an accident? In OP's case, it sounds like he wasn't getting his payout til the following week, so he hadn't signed his title over...or was the vehicle still on a financing lien, whereupon it's technically owned by the bank (my car was fully paid off with clear title)?
So my issue was that I needed to sign my title over (owned the m3 outright) and then mail it to the insurance company. They then issued the check.
Once my title was signed over, Tesla told me that it was not possible to perform this transfer for FSD. I begged them and even reached out to a VP on LinkedIn (who never really helped). They wouldn't budge. My issue was that I couldn't guarantee delivery before I received the check as I needed to pay for the new car with the payout. Tesla wouldn't guarantee that they could perform the FSD transfer and I might be out of luck upon delivery.
It all worked out though in the end for me. I gave up on the FSD quest and found a 2022 model 3 LR with 8k miles on it. Had matrix headlights, AMD Ryzen infotainment CPU, 358 mile rated range, all weather floor mats incl trunk/frunk, mobile charger for less than a new model MINUS the$7500 tax credit which I do't qualify for anyway.
Car is flawless and if I want FSD for a month or two for long trips, it's $199...which might be worth it if I know I'm driving for longer periods but around town, I never use it anyway.
Once my title was signed over, Tesla told me that it was not possible to perform this transfer for FSD. I begged them and even reached out to a VP on LinkedIn (who never really helped). They wouldn't budge. My issue was that I couldn't guarantee delivery before I received the check as I needed to pay for the new car with the payout. Tesla wouldn't guarantee that they could perform the FSD transfer and I might be out of luck upon delivery.
It all worked out though in the end for me. I gave up on the FSD quest and found a 2022 model 3 LR with 8k miles on it. Had matrix headlights, AMD Ryzen infotainment CPU, 358 mile rated range, all weather floor mats incl trunk/frunk, mobile charger for less than a new model MINUS the$7500 tax credit which I do't qualify for anyway.
Car is flawless and if I want FSD for a month or two for long trips, it's $199...which might be worth it if I know I'm driving for longer periods but around town, I never use it anyway.
Quick question, if someone were to buy a totaled tesla that had FSD on it, and restore it all up to tesla specs. Would the car still have FSD? The main question comes down to who owns the FSD, does it stay with the car like when you pay for upgraded stereo? Or does it go with the owner, like a software license? If it lives and dies with the car then it should be included in insurance payouts and should be able to be used if the car is restored. If it is a software license it should be able to be transferred from car to car.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
If it passed through Tesla's hands, it may be stripped of it. If it's private party, then it would stay with the car. FSD was never offered as a software license from car to car. Even this promo is doing an exceptional case and it's only a one time transfer.
So then if the car was sold by the insurance or even private owner bought by say a body shop or ev specialist, and fixed it would retain FSD?
I personally don’t see how it could be removed if Tesla doesn’t own the car.
Tesla might be wise to offer some minimal $$ to insurance companies to buy it back.
PACEMD
Active Member
Right, and the fine print states quite clearly, must be at least 6 to transfer FSD.........
OK, so you really didn't actually DO anything to formally initiate the FSD transfer process.
So, you want to get full credit for the value of FSD on your totaled car with from your insurance ...
... AND full credit for transferring it to your new car with Tesla.
Right?
And you seriously thought that this double accounting trick will fly?
I mean, I give you props for having the balls to try this Enron move.
But you are pushed too far when you started publicly complaining about getting caught.
You sure about that?
Lets read together:
"Customers who take delivery of a new Tesla vehicle between July 20, 2023 and September 30, 2023 may qualify for transferring Full Self-Driving (FSD) capability from their current vehicle to their new vehicle.
If you transfer Full Self-Driving capability from your current vehicle to your new vehicle, your current vehicle will only have access to basic Autopilot features. If you would like to have Full Self-Driving capability features on both your current vehicle and your new vehicle, you can simply purchase Full Self-Driving capability for your new vehicle without participating in this offer."
Your problem is that you no longer own the current vehicle (when the car is totaled, insurance company takes the title, you get the $$$ settlement), and thus have nothing to transfer FSD from.
Nice try, though.
Full Self-Driving Capability Transfers | Tesla Support
For a limited time, when you take delivery of a new Tesla vehicle, you may qualify to transfer FSD capability from your current vehicle to your new one.
Tesla giveth.
And Tesla taketh.
If you don't like what Tesla does, your only recourse is the legal system. There are no dealers to intermediate on your behalf, remember how you celebrated that happy during purchase? Now it's time to pay the piper!
I wanted a new red, long range Model3 but the AP offer expired before Tesla could find me one. Sure seems strange tht the very Model3 that I wanted became available just a few miles from my home just 3 days after the AP transfer promotion ended. So wrong. It certainly dispels one's trust in Tesla.
FSD is married to the VIN. So is FUSC.
The only reason I know this is because I used the current price of FSD to keep my Tesla from being totaled. My car reached the "totaled" value until I reminded the insurance company of the price of FSD and the value of FUSC.
Tesla extended the offer on Sept 29. If you had one on order by the 30th, they would do the transfer. Easy to document with google search
I have to ask, why didn't you follow my advice and google it? Really? In the time you took to ask me, you could have had your answer.
I just don't understand why people don't look things up vs asking?
Tesla Will Honor FSD Transfers After September 30, but Conditions Still Apply
Tesla changed its FSD transfer policy to allow the transfer even after September 30, as long as buyers make "an honest effort" to take delivery of the new car
www.autoevolution.com
I'm not sure that article is binding. I've been talking to them through the 30th and they made it pretty clear they were not extending the offer for me.I have to ask, why didn't you follow my advice and google it? Really? In the time you took to ask me, you could have had your answer.
I just don't understand why people don't look things up vs asking?
Tesla Will Honor FSD Transfers After September 30, but Conditions Still Apply
Tesla changed its FSD transfer policy to allow the transfer even after September 30, as long as buyers make "an honest effort" to take delivery of the new car
Thankfully, Tesla once again reconsidered its position on the FSD transfer. According to several Tesla owners, Tesla removed the deadline as the pre-condition for the transfer. This was requested by those wishing to transfer the FSD to a new Tesla, especially as the delivery time was not under their control. Thankfully, Tesla agreed and announced that the transfer would not be refused even if the new car could not be delivered by the end of the month.
I have to ask, why didn't you follow my advice and google it? Really? In the time you took to ask me, you could have had your answer.
I just don't understand why people don't look things up vs asking?
Tesla Will Honor FSD Transfers After September 30, but Conditions Still Apply
Tesla changed its FSD transfer policy to allow the transfer even after September 30, as long as buyers make "an honest effort" to take delivery of the new car
Unless your internet search is pointing to something official from Tesla, "search for it" pointing to other web blogs is not a definitive source. I havent seen a Tesla statement that says this. I have seen reports from several people saying "Tesla told me that.... " and " on a case by case basis, Tesla says...."
It sounds like you have found something more definitive than that, though, based on the somewhat aggressive nature of this post. Can you link to Teslas official statement on this, if you have found it?
zoomer0056
Active Member
Are you talking to Tesla verbally or using the app? If you're using the app, show the text screen capture.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
Did you already have the order in prior to September 30th, as well as the transfer request and also have the other conditions satisfied (it mentioned stuff like credit checks)? Also did an inventory car matching your configuration pop up (if so, did you accept it)? The conditions of the extension according to that article seems to be fairly restrictive, so may not apply to many people.
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