So, obviously I'm a big data nerd right? I have an EcoBee3, WeMo, and all sorts of crap.
I wanted to know more about my kWh usage, but the TED always seemed expensive and a hassle to install in my already stupid crowded breaker box. And you have to wire every little circuit.
My friend who was also looking at a TED because his electric bill was through the roof, sent me this, and... since i love me some data... i bought one.
http://www.sense.com/
Unpacking the thing felt like unpacking an apple product. Like someone spent alot of my $250 purchase price on designing the thing that will be thrown out within a month or two of it working. Or sooner if you're like that.
I got it installed myself, fairly easy. 3 wires + 2 clampy things.. (ammeter?). anyway, luckily it fit inside my breaker box as it's flush with a wall and adding anything outside it is a HUGE hassle. (not looking forward to wiring up the wife's 14/50).
anyway, install went smooth w/my iphone. I was getting data! real time watt use. I'd like to be able to export logs in the future, especially since my car likes to drop from 40 to 30 amps at random and my power company says 'it's all within spec'. maybe this thing can show me amps + volts down to the second resolution? well, maybe because not yet.
I tried to login from my ipad then. No dice. what the heck? Either I signed up with the wrong email so it was not letting me in, or who knows. So, I managed to accidental while poking around sign out of my iphone. awesome.
I emailed support, and after spending $250+ shipping wasn't exactly thrilled that email was the ONLY option... then waiting until the next day for a response. I know it's not open heart surgery, but I like my fixes before the thing breaks... right?
support did get back to me with a 'try again' email... (not really happy there)... but somehow i was able to sign in from both devices last night around 8 or so... no idea why. support doesn't know, but they are looking into it anyway (maybe support is good)?
So far it's detected zero devices, so my house is one pool of electric suck. Hopefully within a few days it will detect some gizmos and report back.
I understand their position on self-learning vs. me trying to train devices, but I'm one of the (few?) who actually doesn't mine training the gizmo to know X = living room ceiling fan...
in any case, as I get more info I'll post up. I figure at least some of you are also data nerds, and might want a real review before dropping $250 or so.. so.. ask away!
So far, since this is a 'small'/new company/product, I'd like to note the following that if I was working on it, I'd like...
1. needs a reset button ON the device. If you move or sell the device (or buy used) you need a way to make it yours
2. I'd like to know real time volts along side the watts... or show me all 3? or log all 2 actually (the 3rd is just multiply them)
3. needs a web login. the iphone/pad is great, but who doesn't love a good CSV loaded into excel? Sure some would rather go on a hot date on a friday night, but curling up with a good multi layer select and sort can be just as fun
4. the packaging that looks so crisp/clean was actually a bit of a pita to open... knock that off.
5.a support PHONE number please. some of us like things now... see: Drive-Thru
6. let me train IF i want. make it my choice, do all your machine learning anyway, I'm sure SkyNet is in here somewhere anyway
Hopefully this gizmo will help me get an even more accurate monthly cost to my car. I installed a new heat pump (went from propane) only 2 months after the car... so my kWh has always been jumbled. This should unjumble it. what a fun word.. jumble
And if anyone at Sense is listening... I'm more than willing to talk some Sense for money. Same with Tesla. lol I'll double my efforts to get more buyers (like that would ever work)...
I wanted to know more about my kWh usage, but the TED always seemed expensive and a hassle to install in my already stupid crowded breaker box. And you have to wire every little circuit.
My friend who was also looking at a TED because his electric bill was through the roof, sent me this, and... since i love me some data... i bought one.
http://www.sense.com/
Unpacking the thing felt like unpacking an apple product. Like someone spent alot of my $250 purchase price on designing the thing that will be thrown out within a month or two of it working. Or sooner if you're like that.
I got it installed myself, fairly easy. 3 wires + 2 clampy things.. (ammeter?). anyway, luckily it fit inside my breaker box as it's flush with a wall and adding anything outside it is a HUGE hassle. (not looking forward to wiring up the wife's 14/50).
anyway, install went smooth w/my iphone. I was getting data! real time watt use. I'd like to be able to export logs in the future, especially since my car likes to drop from 40 to 30 amps at random and my power company says 'it's all within spec'. maybe this thing can show me amps + volts down to the second resolution? well, maybe because not yet.
I tried to login from my ipad then. No dice. what the heck? Either I signed up with the wrong email so it was not letting me in, or who knows. So, I managed to accidental while poking around sign out of my iphone. awesome.
I emailed support, and after spending $250+ shipping wasn't exactly thrilled that email was the ONLY option... then waiting until the next day for a response. I know it's not open heart surgery, but I like my fixes before the thing breaks... right?
support did get back to me with a 'try again' email... (not really happy there)... but somehow i was able to sign in from both devices last night around 8 or so... no idea why. support doesn't know, but they are looking into it anyway (maybe support is good)?
So far it's detected zero devices, so my house is one pool of electric suck. Hopefully within a few days it will detect some gizmos and report back.
I understand their position on self-learning vs. me trying to train devices, but I'm one of the (few?) who actually doesn't mine training the gizmo to know X = living room ceiling fan...
in any case, as I get more info I'll post up. I figure at least some of you are also data nerds, and might want a real review before dropping $250 or so.. so.. ask away!
So far, since this is a 'small'/new company/product, I'd like to note the following that if I was working on it, I'd like...
1. needs a reset button ON the device. If you move or sell the device (or buy used) you need a way to make it yours
2. I'd like to know real time volts along side the watts... or show me all 3? or log all 2 actually (the 3rd is just multiply them)
3. needs a web login. the iphone/pad is great, but who doesn't love a good CSV loaded into excel? Sure some would rather go on a hot date on a friday night, but curling up with a good multi layer select and sort can be just as fun
4. the packaging that looks so crisp/clean was actually a bit of a pita to open... knock that off.
5.a support PHONE number please. some of us like things now... see: Drive-Thru
6. let me train IF i want. make it my choice, do all your machine learning anyway, I'm sure SkyNet is in here somewhere anyway
Hopefully this gizmo will help me get an even more accurate monthly cost to my car. I installed a new heat pump (went from propane) only 2 months after the car... so my kWh has always been jumbled. This should unjumble it. what a fun word.. jumble
And if anyone at Sense is listening... I'm more than willing to talk some Sense for money. Same with Tesla. lol I'll double my efforts to get more buyers (like that would ever work)...