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I got an option to move to MY AWD (4680 pack). Are there folks who have taken this option? I am local in Austin, and was on MYP (June mid EDD)
But Tesla hasn't claimed faster charging. If anything a smaller pack is likely to charge slower.The faster charging & lighter weight of the 4680 is what interests me.
But Tesla hasn't claimed faster charging. If anything a smaller pack is likely to charge slower.
They will be making 2170 Model Ys for years to come. (They aren't going to abandon working battery cell lines when they are short on cell supply.)2. Once all the 2170 gets sold out, they will most likely bump the range on 4680
I got an option to move to MY AWD (4680 pack). Are there folks who have taken this option? I am local in Austin, and was on MYP (June mid EDD)
I am going to bite the bullet and go for MYAWD. A gamble that I am willing to take. My reasoning comes fromthe following
1. I trust Tesla would do a recall/sw update once they have enough data on MYAWD and bump the range. This current reduced range makes sense for a new tech
2. Once all the 2170 gets sold out, they will most likely bump the range on 4680
3. Osborne effect. 4680 is the future for Tesla.
4. I am not too worried on price point, as much as brand and tech inside it
Most of the so-called “benefits” of the 4680 are just pure speculation at this point and were never confirmed by Tesla or anyone else.
Until the proper people get their hands on a 4680 car to put through testing and compare back to back with a 2170 car, there has been nothing definitive to suggest 4680 offers any tangible benefits for the consumer at this time.
Even if there were, Tesla could just software limit things like charging speed, capacity, and performance to keep it on par with 2170 cars. Especially since eventually there would be both 2170 and 4680 MY LR sold at the same time if Texas starts 4680 LR production and Fremont continues with 2170 LR.
The main driver for 4680 structural battery and one piece castings were to streamline manufacturing speed and cost.
For now probably the only reason to go for the MY AWD is to be able to skip the months (almost year) long wait for the MY LR if you really needed a car sooner and don’t mind giving up the extra range.
I am going to bite the bullet and go for MYAWD. A gamble that I am willing to take. My reasoning comes fromthe following
1. I trust Tesla would do a recall/sw update once they have enough data on MYAWD and bump the range. This current reduced range makes sense for a new tech
2. Once all the 2170 gets sold out, they will most likely bump the range on 4680
3. Osborne effect. 4680 is the future for Tesla.
4. I am not too worried on price point, as much as brand and tech inside it
I am completely speculating here but I imagine they are only shipping to the Austin area because it'll be easier to resolve battery related issues at the factory as opposed to a random service center. To me this feels like you spending not that much less than a MYLR to be a beta tester for their new battery technology.I am going to bite the bullet and go for MYAWD. A gamble that I am willing to take.
It does make sense to soft-release the new battery on a short-range car, avoiding the Osborne effect.Elon over-sold the 4680 which was always at it's heart a way to improve manufacturing and materials efficiency. 800-odd cells to fabricate and bolt into a pack instead of 4000+ for the 2170. 5x fewer electrical connections to make reliable over the life of the car.
It's a very good technology step forward. Alas currently packaged as almost-parity with the peak of the prior technology. It'll advance over time. It's worth it. But to the consumer it's a shockingly big non-event.
1. I trust Tesla would do a recall/sw update once they have enough data on MYAWD and bump the range. This current reduced range makes sense for a new tech
2. Once all the 2170 gets sold out, they will most likely bump the range on 4680
But Tesla hasn't claimed faster charging. If anything a smaller pack is likely to charge slower.
That article was from 2020 though. At that time nobody had any firm data to work on, it was all speculation and extrapolating what was said.I'm not the only who who thinks they could charge faster.
Tesla Model 3 With 4680 Pack: Estimated Charging Time, Power, And Size
Tesla’s Battery Day presentation outlined big improvements in cost, energy, charging time, and pack size. Our estimates provide more details.insideevs.com
I think you hit the exact point here. For Tesla, it is letting them get immediate feedback on problems they have on a new line. The upside to this is anyone having a problem will probably see some whole part replacements happen quickly (i.e. something odd in a battery pack - swap it out) so that the problem part can be poured over by the engineers. These same "low mileage" cars have probably been poked and prodded a bit by hands after they come off the line.I am completely speculating here but I imagine they are only shipping to the Austin area because it'll be easier to resolve battery related issues at the factory as opposed to a random service center. To me this feels like you spending not that much less than a MYLR to be a beta tester for their new battery technology.
That article was from 2020 though. At that time nobody had any firm data to work on, it was all speculation and extrapolating what was said.
Now we have a real car with a real structural pack with fewer cells than expected and less range than expected - but still have no real data.
Some of us remember what happens when people expand what was said based on wants rather than data - then set crazy expectations.
Here looking pointedly at the folks convinced the Model 3 would have a HUD because Elon once tweeted "its a spaceship"