glass roof - production change (July 2018)?

[MXWing]

I will add a data point. Looks like full orange top and rear glass. Vin in the 55xxx, car was likely built early July as it was on the lot around July 26th.

I didn’t check before tinting so no idea if the tint is altering the results.

Rear windshield also fully tinted as one piece.

I don’t think we have conclusively identified if there is a performance difference between orange and non orange but the window tint would take care of any UV or IR issues regardless.

 

[OmahaG8]

I will add a data point. Looks like full orange top and rear glass. Vin in the 55xxx, car was likely built early July as it was on the lot around July 26th.

I didn’t check before tinting so no idea if the tint is altering the results.

Rear windshield also fully tinted as one piece.

I don’t think we have conclusively identified if there is a performance difference between orange and non orange but the window tint would take care of any UV or IR issues regardless.


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Interesting. I think I’ve seen someone say a 53xxx was full tint, a 57xxx was no tint. You’re showing your 55xxx has it. This gives me hope for the P3D I’m set to pickup any day now that I was given a VIN 55xxx : )

 

[MXWing]

Interesting. I think I’ve seen someone say a 53xxx was full tint, a 57xxx was no tint. You’re showing your 55xxx has it. This gives me hope for the P3D I’m set to pickup any day now that I was given a VIN 55xxx : )

Color? Mine was solid black.P3+ with white interior.

 

[Garlan Garner]

Garlan: your test is only testing how much absorption of energy is happening in the glass. it is not testing refractivity (how much IR the glass is allowing to passing through). Radiative heat is not transferred until the electromagnetic (IR) wave hits something. People can absolutely feel more heat hitting their head despite the glass feeling cool (or same temp as S/X).

I don't feel the heat. NOT AT ALL.. I'm not just using numbers.

I have a P3D+. and I've owned a Model S. Its just not true that the Model 3 feels hotter on my head.

If anyone feels the heat....then make another choice. Its really simple.

 

[Linkeds2]

I feel like this has turned more into a “I care about the cool orange glow effect more” thread rather than people trying to figure out if the new glass has uv/ir protection or not

 

[OmahaG8]

Color? Mine was solid black.P3+ with white interior.

Red with white interior

 

[MXWing]

I feel like this has turned more into a “I care about the cool orange glow effect more” thread rather than people trying to figure out if the new glass has uv/ir protection or not

All other things being equal I prefer no orange glow. It would clash with the satin ppf I am considering.

That’s why I am pushing for any worriers to just get their car tinted.

You remove all doubt about IR/UV and makes the car more attractive in all cases.

The talk about having Tesla perform surgery to replace glass seems over the top but that’s my two cents.

 

[OmahaG8]

I feel like this has turned more into a “I care about the cool orange glow effect more” thread rather than people trying to figure out if the new glass has uv/ir protection or not

I mean I assumed that’s what this was always about. It’s a Tesla. There is some vanity involved, anyone who says otherwise is being slightly dishonest.

 

[jdetar]

My car is 47K VIN, built July delivered three days ago. Today I just drove for ~25 min this afternoon weather reported a 10 on the UV index in South Florida. I had considerable, noticeable heat coming through the roof and *definitely* UV as now my head feels sunburnt...

I don't know how to measure how much UV is coming through but not too happy about this, and am not interested in putting up a tacky sunshade either. Is Tesla taking care of anyone for this? Maybe my roof is faulty I don't know... but this is not acceptable I don't want skin cancer from driving.

 

[kengchang]

My car is 47K VIN, built July delivered three days ago. Today I just drove for ~25 min this afternoon weather reported a 10 on the UV index in South Florida. I had considerable, noticeable heat coming through the roof and *definitely* UV as now my head feels sunburnt...

I don't know how to measure how much UV is coming through but not too happy about this, and am not interested in putting up a tacky sunshade either. Is Tesla taking care of anyone for this? Maybe my roof is faulty I don't know... but this is not acceptable I don't want skin cancer from driving.

Are you a backseat driver?

 

[CuriousM3]

I asked service to check the new panel first before cutting out the old as the original panel is distortion free and otherwise perfect minus the coating. They just called and said its also missing on the replacement, so they wont be replacing and are tracking down an answer from engineering. At the end of all this we may never know for sure. Mixed about this , on one hand good not to cut out the original glass and avoid any possible damage from the procedure, but still possibly missing the coating.

My theory is the batch of missing coating is stock for the future base version without the exposed roof with a full interior headliner , which would make the coating unnecessary.

 

[super20g]

I asked service to check the new panel first before cutting out the old as the original panel is distortion free and otherwise perfect minus the coating. They just called and said its also missing on the replacement, so they wont be replacing and are tracking down an answer from engineering. At the end of all this we may never know for sure.

Keep us in the loop... Somebody is bound to eventually get to the bottom of it.

 

[bandido]

I don't feel the heat. NOT AT ALL.. I'm not just using numbers.

I have a P3D+. and I've owned a Model S. Its just not true that the Model 3 feels hotter on my head.

If anyone feels the heat....then make another choice. Its really simple.

My experience with the three is limited only my test this past week. All the talk about random changes without notice or reason makes me nervous. I am very hopeful that you are correct that the glass is just as good. I want to order my car and I’m excited to do so, here in AZ this is a concern. I am going to go by my service center with my heat/solar energy meter. I will post the test this weekend.

 

[KarenRei]

I feel like this has turned more into a “I care about the cool orange glow effect more” thread rather than people trying to figure out if the new glass has uv/ir protection or not

What's wrong with that? Is there something wrong with caring about a new car's aesthetics?

 

[KarenRei]

All the talk about random changes without notice

Welcome to Tesla.

or reason

No. There almost certainly is a very reasonable, albeit disappointing, reason for it. Just because you don't personally know the reason, don't assume that there isn't one.

Without notice? Expect that.
Without reason? No.

 

[Jedi2155]

My car is 47K VIN, built July delivered three days ago. Today I just drove for ~25 min this afternoon weather reported a 10 on the UV index in South Florida. I had considerable, noticeable heat coming through the roof and *definitely* UV as now my head feels sunburnt...

I don't know how to measure how much UV is coming through but not too happy about this, and am not interested in putting up a tacky sunshade either. Is Tesla taking care of anyone for this? Maybe my roof is faulty I don't know... but this is not acceptable I don't want skin cancer from driving.

The current changes does not impact the glass UV impact at all. The orange glow/IR material that has been reference only deals with the heat rejection that Tint that provide better protection. What you're experiencing is likely normal to any car with a sunroof, and I don't think its possible for it to be defective.

 

[TheLocNar]

My bet. There is still UV/IR protection in the non-orange glass. They had to re-engineer/find a new supplier because so many panels were cracking before.

 

[CuriousM3]

Keep us in the loop... Somebody is bound to eventually get to the bottom of it.

Will do, i have the coating over the front and in LA, that heat still pushes thru and is much hotter than the panoramic sunroof of the model S loaner.

 

[Linkeds2]

What's wrong with that? Is there something wrong with caring about a new car's aesthetics?

Nothing wrong with it. It’s completely fine to be bummed out for expecting it and not getting it.

But there is a fine line between what we see on our cars/what we expect VS what Tesla sold us/what we’re entitled to.

 

[Runt8]

I feel like this has turned more into a “I care about the cool orange glow effect more” thread rather than people trying to figure out if the new glass has uv/ir protection or not

Until we get an official explanation from Tesla (unlikely) or someone actually measures any differences in the amount if IR getting through there's nothing else to talk about