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Hey Uber and Lyft drivers - NO SUPERCHARGING!
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Xenius
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I'm certainly not a fan of commercial cars using the chargers, but before this policy came out they were allowed to. So they bought the car based on the old policy, and it seems reasonable that the policy that was active at the time they bought is still active for them.
Xenius
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Also for the cars that are actually company owned Tesla will apparently work with you to install private superchargers, if speed is your only concern and not necessarily getting it for "free".
That makes sense for a taxi company or commercial fleet but not for Uber or Lyft drivers who are independent contractors.
Uber drivers need sleep too.
Miles per taxi per day really isn't _that_ high, and common taxi operation involves urban and suburban driving.
Good point but I have to think that their energy usage is not going to be optimal. I bet they are way above 200Wh/km, especially in the winter. I wonder who is abusing this today that is causing them to change the policy? Or is it pre-emptive ahead of lots of Model 3s hitting the road.
A preemptive strike. The catch-all on the policy is to contact Tesla to discuss solutions.
Derek Kessler
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Plus there are issues in some places where there are Tesla-heavy taxi services with them hogging Superchargers.
SW2Fiddler
We Are Cognitive Dissidents
They would have to kick Björn off the supercharger island. Unlikely.
It's because of Tesloop and Taxi companies like the one at Amsterdam airport who have a fleet of Model S who are hogging the chargers a fair bit.
Tesla screwed this one up. They should have stopped free SCing on new purchases a year ago when it was starting to happen. They absolutely should grandfather this in as it was part of their PR campaign.
As I've said elsewhere, all they need to do is put a fair/competitive price on the $/kWh or $/min charging rate, plus a prohibitive idle fee, and this problem goes away. The money funds new supercharger stations, and the idle fees prevent the current artificial fullness of the SuperChargers.
This has nothing to do with Model 3 owners being cheap (as I've read elsewhere) and the massive volume of them coming. The problem surfaced before a single piece of Model 3 production line equipment was installed.
Shock-On-T
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Hard to imagine how Tesla will know you're an Uber driver anyway, or how much of your driving is Uber.
I tried Uber driving when it first came to Australia, just for the experience. I would do an hour or two ever few days, usually when I was bored. It felt amazing that I could just switch on the app, have a little drive and chat, make $30, then eat a $30 lunch.
This was long before I got my Model S, but if I started Ubering again I don't see how Tesla would have the foggiest idea. My current job already involves working at multiple sites around Sydney, so has a fair bit of random driving.
I tried Uber driving when it first came to Australia, just for the experience. I would do an hour or two ever few days, usually when I was bored. It felt amazing that I could just switch on the app, have a little drive and chat, make $30, then eat a $30 lunch.
This was long before I got my Model S, but if I started Ubering again I don't see how Tesla would have the foggiest idea. My current job already involves working at multiple sites around Sydney, so has a fair bit of random driving.
That's what he said a couple years ago. Then more recently they have stated that they are building superchargers for urban dwellers. So it's not really the policy any more.
comanchepilot
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If I lease a Tesla with a 45,000 mile 3 year lease, then its a company owned vehicle . . . hmmm. Rules always create loopholes.
I think they would only raise the issue if you had a usage pattern consistent with taxi service, i.e. charging a LOT at the same site.
Really free is bad policy. Even a small charge dissuades a lot of poor behavior, and helps optimize use of a limited resource. But I’m not complaining about my free access!!!
Really free is bad policy. Even a small charge dissuades a lot of poor behavior, and helps optimize use of a limited resource. But I’m not complaining about my free access!!!
Then again, Christian in Quebec City got around in his Taxi using his own HPWC for 3 years before a SC was opened in Levis so you have to imagine Supercharging for taxi drivers is not always necessary. Tesloop is a whole other beast with long-distance taxying.
As far as I'm concerned, while I do use my car to visit my customers (and I don't believe this policy is directed at businessmen like me) I don't want to have to end up at a Supercharger as this means I'm losing time during business hours. So I will manage it the best I can to complete my driving days on a single charge from my HPWC.
Mind you, I knew full well when buying that wouldn't always be possible and figured if I could waste less time at superchargers in a year than what it would take to stop by, and fill a tanks of gas in that same year it would still be worthwhile. So far it seems to be the case.
But I do need to stop every now and then to top off. If I've needed to add what, 100kw of charge in 18,000km driven so far does that make me a sinner? Do I need to invoke the grandfather clause to appease folks?
As far as I'm concerned, while I do use my car to visit my customers (and I don't believe this policy is directed at businessmen like me) I don't want to have to end up at a Supercharger as this means I'm losing time during business hours. So I will manage it the best I can to complete my driving days on a single charge from my HPWC.
Mind you, I knew full well when buying that wouldn't always be possible and figured if I could waste less time at superchargers in a year than what it would take to stop by, and fill a tanks of gas in that same year it would still be worthwhile. So far it seems to be the case.
But I do need to stop every now and then to top off. If I've needed to add what, 100kw of charge in 18,000km driven so far does that make me a sinner? Do I need to invoke the grandfather clause to appease folks?
stopcrazypp
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They can always pay to charge at a CHAdeMO station.
Also, I don't see where Tesla wanted to increase adoption of EVs for commercial purposes (other than for semis, which is a different subject). In this case, the commercial cars are causing an issue for the general public, which is why this policy has to exist.
