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Honest questions, who are the competitors and what is the price range??? In comparison to the MYThe title says it all... A bunch of competitors are targeting the 400-500 mile range already.
Do you think that a variation of the model Y gets 400+ Mi range any time soon? If so, how soon?
You left off the price. The Lucid Air GT that is rated for 516, only gets ~436 on the highway, and starts at $154k. The Lucid Air Pure that is rated for 406 miles starts at $87.5k, and will likely only get ~340. Of course, they won't even tell you when you might be able to get a Lucid Air Pure. But really Lucid competes with the Model S, not the Model Y.Lucid, Nio ET7, Polestar 3 suv, bmw says 500 mi couple years away, GAC Aion…
They’re coming…. whats the plan for the model y? You can say “300 is enough” as long as you want, but 400+ isn’t far off for some other brands, and it would be folly to stay at current range indefinitely…. Was just curious if Tesla has any plans…
When the 1000 mile versions costs twice what the 300 mile version does. Yes, Yes I would.Not a need, but convenience, definitely. Are you honestly saying that if I were to offer you a 1000 mi range vehicle and a 300 mi one you’d take the 300?
I am honestly curious what Tesla will do because they have incentive to cap range / drag feet on range to drive supercharger profit. The fact that they have managed to convince some into thinking that 300 miles is just as good as 1000 miles is fascinating to me.
(and we are talking about the future here. Assume prices will come down to be equivalent to today, and performance won’t be impacted by undue weight due to battery enhancements)
Not until after the Model S gets 500+ miles of range.The title says it all... A bunch of competitors are targeting the 400-500 mile range already.
Do you think that a variation of the model Y gets 400+ Mi range any time soon? If so, how soon?
Obviously there are already cars with more than 330. But they are bigger than the Model Y.Thanks for your reply Mike! I see in your reply why you don’t want more than 300 mile range , but not an answer to the question posited in the thread title?
Unless your answer is “never, 330 is the max and always will be”?
Their bread and butter is selling vehicles. (And soon energy storage equipment.) I suspect that they currently make very little money on Supercharging, and I don't see that changing significantly.Agree with SC profit comment. It’s Teslas future bread and butter. Why make less on energy?
Obviously there are already cars with more than 330. But they are bigger than the Model Y.
I can't tell you when it would happen, but I could imagine that Tesla might make a max range Model Y sometime in the future, once they have demand for the existing Model Y met globally. If I were to guess I think it might be possible to have a ~400 mile range Model Y in 4-5 years. You are talking about a ~25% increase in energy storage capacity, and battery capacity technology isn't increasing at a fast pace, I estimate ~5%/year. (But just because they increase cell capacity by 5% doesn't mean that they will still put the same number of cells in the vehicle, they may reduce the number of cells keeping the range mostly the same to reduce costs and allow higher production.)
Tesla made far more on my $6,000 (paid now) software upgrade for my MYP than they ever will in the lifetime of this car supercharging (paid in dollars over years). Their big profits are in the cars/software, not selling energy.Agree with SC profit comment. It’s Teslas future bread and butter. Why make less on energy?