Cheburashka
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I gotta say, I have a Ford truck now and the paint is pretty good too. The other thing is that standard dent/scratch removal products work on it which is always a plus.
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How many of you will/may transition to CyberTruck?
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I gotta say, I have a Ford truck now and the paint is pretty good too. The other thing is that standard dent/scratch removal products work on it which is always a plus.
How the Tesla Cybertruck’s Price and Range Will Determine Its Fate:
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How the Tesla Cybertruck’s Price and Range Will Determine Its Fate
The size of the market for Elon Musk’s electric pickup will hinge on how much the company ends up charging for it. Here’s what to look for when Tesla releases final specs.
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Cheburashka
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How the Tesla Cybertruck’s Price and Range Will Determine Its Fate:
How the Tesla Cybertruck’s Price and Range Will Determine Its Fate
The size of the market for Elon Musk’s electric pickup will hinge on how much the company ends up charging for it. Here’s what to look for when Tesla releases final specs.
Fake news.
People will buy the CT simply because it's a Tesla.
That's true at first, yes, but for this to be a real player and not S/X level production, the range and price matter.
If it's >350 miles of range, but under 70k...it will sell fine, IMO.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
Actually now considering a lightning to replace my very aged truck that I don’t use. First option is replacing our 2017 s with a new s.
Figure I’d use an electric truck.
Are they offering deals on lightning now days?
Figure I’d use an electric truck.
Are they offering deals on lightning now days?
They just dropped the price on all trims at the end of October. The XLT starts at 49k and the Platinum at 91k
Cheburashka
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I agree but I think it needs to be 250 miles or range and 60K.
Yeah. Truck prices are just wild. I remember when I was in college my buddy got a deal on a new Ford Ranger and it was $12K. Brand new.
These days that truck starts at $33K for the base model. Seems like such a rip off. It's what's holding the used truck prices so high too.
An EPA of 250 would be like 180 real world miles, which would be <90 miles if towing...I don't think that would have the take rate, even with the pricing.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
If it ain't a RAM, Ford or GMC, then it ain't a truck. Truck buyers have high brand loyalty. This reduces the amount of competition and hence maintains the MSRP.
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Ford is currently offering a $7500 manufacturers rebate on most F150L models between now and year end. That’s on top of any dealer discounts and the federal $7500 EV tax credit if the vehicle MSRP (not including delivery fees) is under 80k. This means you can find 2023 Lariat ER models with the 511 high package for under 70k plus TTL if the dealer is willing to deal on price. Add in the $7500 tax rebate and you are down into the low 60s net price. Not bad really. I am waiting for the 11/30 CT pricing and final specs and will then make my decision as to how to proceed.
Tell that to Tesla that has been forced to lower prices on ALL of its vehicles to push them out the door!
There will be initial very strong CT demand and high prices. Take note of the first CT that sold at auction for over 400k. Once they start pumping them out to match demand, they will lower prices.
Also Tesla raising prices in China and Europe. Albeit not by much but still raising them.
It’s a balancing act between demand and production. Tesla has the benefit (along with other direct sales companies) to quickly adjust to market conditions. Interest rates are playing a big role too.
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I said before that I bet that the CT will start off expensive and then after 18 or whatever months when "profitability" is achieved, it will drop like the refresh S/X.
Most likely.
But I don’t think they will drop it once “profitable”. They will drop it once demand and production reaches equilibrium and adjust accordingly. If interest rates drop, I suspect demand will increase for all vehicles and all vehicles may go up in price if production cannot keep up. Tesla can play the supply/demand/price curve very closely.
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Cheburashka
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Who cares? Most people don't ever tow anything, and people who tow a lot buy diesels.
Interesting. Are you saying they are giving a $7500 rebate on top of the negotiated price with the dealer? That is kind of a tempting proposition.
Truck buyers care, even if you point out that most do not tow...hence the reason for all the range talk.
As stated before you can get a 33k ICE truck, but most aren't buying those.
Yes - it's a Ford manufacturers rebate - nothing to do with the dealer discount itself. If you can find a F150L that you like and a dealer willing to negotiate on price - I've seen several F150L Lariat ERs with 81k MSRP (minus the $1995 destination/delivery fee - so it's still under the 80k federal price cap), down in the high 60's online - with dealer discounts of up to $6600 - that's in addition to the $7500 Ford rebate. So around 66-67k plus TTL. Add in the $7500 federal tax credit - and you're down to around 60k. Tempting eh?
With end of year 2023 upcoming - some dealers are likely willing to negotiate to move units off their lots.
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300k AGI yes - adjusted gross income - IIRC it's line 11 on the 1040. Ford adds their destination/delivery fee to their MSRP on their window stickers - so make sure to subtract this. Technically the limit for a 2023 F150L would be $81,995 since the Ford destination/delivery fee for 2023 is $1995.
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