There are leasing companies who do things like that here in Southern California where people will buy a $250,000 car before they buy a house. It's crazy. For the right price you can get anything here - including short term leases on expensive cars.
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There are leasing companies who do things like that here in Southern California where people will buy a $250,000 car before they buy a house. It's crazy. For the right price you can get anything here - including short term leases on expensive cars.
Uncle Paul
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I don't know. I suppose there is a safety benefit in theory. Perhaps you are more likely to notice the car warning you that its confidence is low and it wants you to take over. The HUD may encourage you to keep your eyes outside the dash more - and therefore unconsciously provide a kind of backup system because you'll notice problems faster.
eyespii
Member
I'm personally waiting for the HUD before upgrading my AP1 car. What I'm hoping for is an AR-type HUD that will do things like overlay navigation information over the actual roads. Even in a full self-driving situation, I can see how that'd be useful, as you would see exactly what the car was planning to do next.
Free supercharging is a mostly a psychological rather than financial benefit. When your car is ~$100k, does the few hundred dollars per year you'd spend charging it on road trips really matter?
Free supercharging is a mostly a psychological rather than financial benefit. When your car is ~$100k, does the few hundred dollars per year you'd spend charging it on road trips really matter?
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HUDs are pretty useless, I drove a Peugeot 508 with one and it basically did nothing but save me bending my eyes a further 10 degrees down to the dash to check my speed.
It's the least important or interesting thing on a Model S, and that's assuming they are actually working on one.
My advice: it's a pretty good time to buy, because AP2 just came out and the supercharging is still free. Probably won't be any major hardware improvements in the near future (but I don't consider HUD a 'major' improvement).
It's the least important or interesting thing on a Model S, and that's assuming they are actually working on one.
My advice: it's a pretty good time to buy, because AP2 just came out and the supercharging is still free. Probably won't be any major hardware improvements in the near future (but I don't consider HUD a 'major' improvement).
Not sure whether a HUD that highlights what it thinks you might be interested in is a good thing or a bad thing.
Something basic like the BMW system would be useful, but the sort of busy concepts we see online that give the driver an AP2-style view of the world would be a complete nightmare.
Something basic like the BMW system would be useful, but the sort of busy concepts we see online that give the driver an AP2-style view of the world would be a complete nightmare.
hill
high fiber member
consider how long it was that the MX came out w/ its different / lower cd front face. Next thing you know, it's on the S.
for ocd folk like myself, it's one more thing to drive one nuts.
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3s-a-charm
Active Member
HankLloydRight
No Roads
But HUD isn't even on the M3 yet. Heck, there isn't even an M3 yet.
I'm not saying it won't happen for some MS/MX down the road, but geeze, do we really need to start speculating on that now?
That's assuming it's available in a short timeframe. At least living in Europe I have my doubts we will see self driving cars in consumer hands before 2020.
Yes. Speculation is our job. If you can't stand the heat stay out the kitchen - speculation isn't for the faint of heart. It takes discipline. Focus. The willingness to sacrifice productivity for the sake of dinking around on TMC threads. Ain't no place for wussies Hank - speculation is a sport for the big boys.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Five years max. Except I think it's coming from Larry Page:
Google co-founder's reported 'flying car' spotted hovering in Hollister
http://jalopnik.com/heres-the-secret-flying-car-from-googles-co-founder-1788146012
From the Jalopnik piece:
"Did you know that Larry Page, one of the founders of Google, started a highly secretive flying car company? Actually, that’s not exactly right. That cash-gorged bastard started two flying car companies. Now it looks like one of the prototype flying things has finally been seen in the wild. The flying car company we’re interested in today is called Zee.Aero, which maintains a hangar at Hollister Airport. Nearby the airport tarmac is a company called DK Turbines, where Steve Eggleston works, and from where Eggleston snapped this photo of what seems to be a working prototype of the Zee.Aero flying car:
As a fellow powderhound, I'm up for the plan in the last paragraph. I'm even OK with waking up every 1.5 hours to plug in at the supercharger.
As for sitting on the fence about ordering now, I think this month is an obvious sweet spot with the intersection of Autopilot 2.0 and free supercharging. I got my first friend to take the leap and place his order today!
skitown
Member
I keep thinking about a HUD and whether or not it would be a distraction if implemented in the driver's line of sight - and in this thought exercise, literally say on the windshield. I can argue both sides, and I suppose that means that it comes down to how thoughtfully it was implemented.
I had this idea while watching the "Medium Range Vehicle Camera" window in the "Autopilot Full Self-Driving Hardware" video and imagining what it would be like driving with that projected in front of me. Pausing the video here and there and marveling at how it can identify things better than I can. In my imagination, I tone down the box colors a bit so they're a visual cue, and not as distracting from the actual world as they are in the video.
Now I think about how useful this would be at dusk, in a rural setting with hard to see deer approaching the roadway. Or bicyclists. Or pedestrians. That would be phenomenal.
Could a Tesla HUD implementation kind of be hiding in plain site with this video? I wouldn't put a bunch of money on it, but it's fun to ponder.
I had this idea while watching the "Medium Range Vehicle Camera" window in the "Autopilot Full Self-Driving Hardware" video and imagining what it would be like driving with that projected in front of me. Pausing the video here and there and marveling at how it can identify things better than I can. In my imagination, I tone down the box colors a bit so they're a visual cue, and not as distracting from the actual world as they are in the video.
Now I think about how useful this would be at dusk, in a rural setting with hard to see deer approaching the roadway. Or bicyclists. Or pedestrians. That would be phenomenal.
Could a Tesla HUD implementation kind of be hiding in plain site with this video? I wouldn't put a bunch of money on it, but it's fun to ponder.
I've never been in a car with a HUD that was worth a crap. They are all blurry or useless...
The only HUD I really want to see in a Tesla is one that is a full AR system that will provide useful information overlayed onto the view. I don't think this is coming any time soon, sadly.
The only HUD I really want to see in a Tesla is one that is a full AR system that will provide useful information overlayed onto the view. I don't think this is coming any time soon, sadly.
Unless Tesla has cracked the problem of direct sunlight on a HUD that doesn't involve wearing glasses and is not prohibitively expensive, I very much doubt we will see extremely fancy AR HUDs with route overlays and AP cues. They'd be too distracting if they weren't clear at all times. I really hope it's available, but any HUD on the Tesla is likely to be far simpler than people hope.
