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I didn't expect to pay $35,000 for a model 3

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by bmzl, Aug 3, 2017.

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  1. bmzl

    bmzl Member

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    What interested me in the tesla model 3 in the first place was the self driving capabilities; and I knew the software was an extra cost option. That option on the model S added about 10%; so I expected to pay about $4000 extra for it on the model 3. Other than that, the features which come standard on all other $35,000 cars (power windows, mirrors, seats etc.) would suffice. Accordingly, I expected to pay around $39,000 (maybe a little more, but less than the average Musk expected of $42,000). But if you had told me that it would cost me $49,000 for that car, I would have laughed in your face--that would've suggested that Tesla had been conning us all along--and Elon Musk had a much better reputation than that.

    There has been only one substantial cost change while the model 3 has been under development--the cost of copper (hence the cost of electric motors e.g. power seats) has fallen about 50%. That is one reason why every other "$35,000" car includes electric seats, mirrors etc. as standard. This has been clearly a bait and switch.
     
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  2. MP3Mike

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    You will still be able to get your Model 3 for $40k, with EAP, in November. The $49k price includes the $9k range upgrade, and the $5k Premium Upgrade Package neither of which Tesla is going to force you to buy. (Unless you want one of the "first production units".)
     
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  3. cdub

    cdub Future Model 3 owner / Current original Leaf owner

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    It's still a $35,000 car for the base. It has power mirrors... just not autofold when parked. There is no bait and switch. Base 3 series do not include power seats.

    The front seats have heated seats in the base as well.
     
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  4. bmzl

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    My calculation is as follows: $35,000 + $8000 (full self driving) + $1000 (I hate black) + $5000 (premium interior) = $49,000.
    Being "forced to buy," is an interesting concept. In an era when electric motors are cheap, only a stripped-down base model does not include power seats. I won't pay $44,000 for a stripped-down base model of any car.
     
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    Thanks for the info on power mirrors. Now, if I could only include power seats for $45,000, I would be happy. ;-)
     
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    Most Model S/X buyers don't purchase the $3,000 Fully Self Driving option because it is not released yet and it is unknown when it will be released. You could drop that and just add the $5,000 Enhanced Autopilot. Also, don't forget the $7,500 federal tax credits.
     
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  7. SageBrush

    SageBrush 2018: Drain the Sewer

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    Why would you presume that the extended range model or premium interior was part of the starting price ?!
     
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    #8 Thomas Edison, Aug 3, 2017
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    So you call an advertised base model price that does not change over time a bait and switch? Riiiiiiiiight.
     
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  9. JeffK

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    You know you can always move the seats by hand and make an electric motor sound with your mouth... it's practically the same thing.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Wait - really!?
     
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    Plus the up to $3,000 excise tax credit in Maryland as of last month. As for EAP and FSD, many will not opt for that including my wife in her Model 3. I love EAP in my X, but it is not for everyone at this very early stage. It is certainly not considered a base feature in any car, so not sure how you can count that in your calcs for price comparison.
     
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    SageBrush 2018: Drain the Sewer

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    Really
     
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    2017 BMW 3 Series Specs
    MSRP $33,450

    Interior seating and trim
    6-way manually adjustable front seats; includes 2-way manual headrests

    and the premium package is cheaper, but it's hard to compare because the options are different:

    Premium Package
    $3,100
    •Auto-dimming rearview mirror
    •Auto-dimming interior and driver exterior mirrors
    •Storage package
    •Comfort Access keyless entry
    •Power Front Seats
    •SiriusXM Satellite Radio with 1year All Access Subscription
    •Universal garage-door opener
    •Lumbar support
    •Moonroof
     
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    The only pricing I am shocked by is the long range option. The base model is more or less what I expected. I think I did expect a little more range from the base model. My problem is over time I started half expecting to also get the bigger battery for cheap (no real reason to think this, but I did). Then the announcement of it being 310 miles really made me want it. Only it was like a quarter of the price of the car! So, I am anguishing about how to afford a $60k car and it is frustrating, but I keep having to remind myself that if I go back to my original plan everything is fine. The non-black paint surcharge is really annoying but not a deal breaker. Just wish Tesla was a little smarter about where they get their margins from - that $1k price gouge is hard to explain. The base car with PUP and AP seems to be everything I expected.
     
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    Also base 3-series does not include navigation.
     
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    SageBrush 2018: Drain the Sewer

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    #16 SageBrush, Aug 3, 2017
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    The following is going to amaze you, so hold on tight:

    The Tesla 5.6 second, 220 mile drivetrain is more expensive than the 7.1 second, ICE drivetrain that << insert ICE manufacturer >> sells. The difference is going to be seen in the options packages ... somewhere.

    As for your fav other model, I suggest you head over to the bimmer forum and start complaining that the $33k model only has 78% of the power of the Tesla Model 3. Perhaps you will be mollified by people that tell you about homelink ... or something.
     
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  17. derekmw

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    Would you rather have the Nissan Leaf SV at $34,200 that has cloth seats and only 107 range?
     
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    SageBrush 2018: Drain the Sewer

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    #18 SageBrush, Aug 3, 2017
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    Or have the Tesla drivetrain.
    And it is not electric.

    Can we banish these <car xyz has a feature that the Model 3 does not> posts to their own sub-forum ? PLEASE ?
     
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  19. SageBrush

    SageBrush 2018: Drain the Sewer

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    And no battery cooling
    And no Supercharger network
    With a 1990's interior

    But otherwise, quite similar ;-)
     
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    The base model 3 does not come with heated seats, heated mirrors etc.
     
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