Idea: Free New NACS Non Tesla Charging, Temp

[kpanda17]

I think I heard Tesla was giving out free charging at some locations in USA. This made me think of Jan 2024, Tesla should enable free charging for non Teslas, limited amount of maybe 10KW, once rhe NACS to CCS adapters are available. This will encourage future use by non Teslas ahead of the adapter availability and credit card app setup which might be late.

Locations for this should be large Tesla locations where Tesla and non Tesla owners can mingle and also Tesla swag can be purchased.

imagine brand new ID4, Polestar, Ford EV owners buying Tesla stuff.

 

[kpanda17]

What are your thoughts?

 

[Watts_Up]

I think I heard Tesla was giving out free charging at some locations in USA.

Some Supercharger locations offer free L2 Tesla J1772 chargers plugs.

 

[kpanda17]

Sorry, let me clarify
Supercharging

 

[Watts_Up]

Sorry, let me clarify
Supercharging

To my knowledge only Volta provides free 48 kW CCS Fast DC charging.

 

[kpanda17]

Yes, my idea is for Tesla to draw in early rhe non Tesla EV owners ahead of wide availability of the app CC charging and adapter

 

[Genie]

Yes, my idea is for Tesla to draw in early rhe non Tesla EV owners ahead of wide availability of the app CC charging and adapter

Draw in from where? EA? From many posts on this forum it looks like their lack of reliability would be incentive enough.
Do you think Tesla drivers paying to charge will be happy knowing the other EVs Supercharge free?

 

[kpanda17]

Sorry, maybe I was not clear

The native apps, such as Fords, and NACS adapters wont be widely available until Jan/Feb or later 2024
Tesla could demo as soon as they have temporary adapters ready and show these non Tesla owners their future
While seeing happy Tesla owners charging

I’m a 2x Teala owner and would not care or maybe give Tesla owners free as well
Cost could come from Tesla advertising budget
But it would be limited to just say 10kw
DCFC
I could see Tesla owners helping non Tesla owners

 

[Genie]

And I’m fine with open Superchargers selling power to all EVs. But not giving it free while charging Tesla owners,
even if it’s just 10kWh free, it should be the same for everyone.

 

[kpanda17]

My est 10KW in most places is $4
Like Starbucks giving samples

 

[JulienW]

My est 10KW in most places is $4
Like Starbucks giving samples

kW = power [output] (analogy: Horse Power/10 kW=14 HP)
kWh = energy [storage] (analogy: gallons of gas)

This is why the first responses were confused since L2 AC charging is often 10kW.

Tesla doesn't need to do a damn thing extra since they have Electrify America to drive other EV owners to the Supercharger network.

 

[kpanda17]

I’m a lover not a hater
love the idea of helping charge an ID4 at a supercharger right next to my MYP
share experiences

 

[JulienW]

I’m a lover not a hater
love the idea of helping charge an ID4 at a supercharger right next to my MYP
share experiences

....and if it is a 8 stall site and there are 4 ID4s charging and since the port is on the passenger rear they have to take 2 stalls each while ½ the stalls are not being used but blocked off. Then you must to get in a queue behind 2 Mach E's, 2 F150 Lightning's and a Rivian all of which will also use 2 stalls each (port on the front driver's side) to charge and means you will not get an opening an hour or more while ½ the stalls sit unused.

Well you be feeling the love then?

 

[kpanda17]

Maybe it’s event based for a few hours and our Tesla NAVS will steer us clear during thst time
And mingling/waiting can take place for Teslas insisting on still going

Remember, at this time/Nov-Jan, the Ford app will not show rhe T supercharger as a recharge destination
It will be a marketed, event invitation
Tesla employees will be managing the event
It will be an EV mingling event parry

This is exactly what the new EV manuf charging group does NOT want
A Tesla leading non Tesla EV and Tesla owner mingling charging event/party

Visualize:
Tesla owners helping non Tesla EV owners to charge
Sharing EV ownership stories
Eating, drinking, buying/wearing Tesla swag
CT hats, Tesla jackets, Vessels, etc

 

[beatle]

Supercharging isn't really an "event" to show up for. It's something you do when you're on a road trip. Driving out of your way for a few free electrons is like driving out of your way to save $0.10 a gallon on gas. Tesla doesn't need to do anything to stoke demand. They are not making much, if anything, by people charging their cars. Most vehicles won't have the ability to supercharge by January 2024 anyway.

 

[kpanda17]

Marketing
Promoting the Tesla superior ecosystem
People crash gas stations that advertise $0.10 less per gallon
It’s not to make supercharging money during that event, it about rhe Tesla long game

Let’s agree to disagree

 

[Rocky_H]

Driving out of your way for a few free electrons is like driving out of your way to save $0.10 a gallon on gas.

I find it hilarious personally that out of all the things you could choose from, you picked this example out of nowhere as something you perceive as crazy, ridiculous, and impossible and something no one would do, when it's actually very common and something that many people do routinely.

 

[kpanda17]

Called a fire sale

Nov to Jan, Tesla would make huge positive news using advertising $$ to give free 10KW charging to non Teslas
Like an intro to the Tesla ecosystem
not being devilish at all

 

[JulienW]

....give free 10KW charging to non Teslas....

Please learn and use the correct terms. 10kW is a charging speed and NOT an amount of energy sold. You don't go to a gas station and buy 10 Horse Power of gas.
Here it is again:

kW = power [output] (analogy: Horse Power/10 kW=14 HP)
kWh = energy [storage] (analogy: gallons of gas)

kW vs. kWh: What's the Difference? | Direct Energy Regulated Services

Learn the key difference between a kilowatt (kW) and a kilowatt-hour (kWh) and what they mean on your energy bill.

www.directenergyregulatedservices.com

 

[bmah]

I don't think that Tesla is going to have a problem drawing people into their charging ecosystem. The Supercharger experience will speak for itself. They don't need to give away free charging or do any promotions. In fact I think a lot of Tesla owners are worried about too much demand from non-Tesla vehicles (for the record, I think this may be an issue in the short term, but not in the long run).

You used "Tesla giving away free charging at some locations in the USA" as a precedent for this. You might not be aware that this was to try to incentivize travelers on some holiday weekends to charge during non-peak hours, to avoid over-crowding. It's not something that Tesla does to be nice, or to try to stimulate demand.

Bruce.