T34ME
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You mean just like a couple of years ago when a majority of California voted to increase taxes on themselves? Lead, follow, or get out of the way.You have the right to your opinion. I'll vote against it, of course.
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You mean just like a couple of years ago when a majority of California voted to increase taxes on themselves? Lead, follow, or get out of the way.You have the right to your opinion. I'll vote against it, of course.
You mean just like a couple of years ago when a majority of California voted to increase taxes on themselves? Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Yesterday after watching "All You Know" produced by Zack and Jesse, I called the following 3 Representatives for District CA 20.The most proactive action I can think of to try and save the EV tax credit is the following:
- Put together the bullet points in layman's terms for the following ideas
- Canceling the EV tax credit while allowing big oil to keep their major tax breaks is wrong and creates uneven market
- Many high tech jobs are being created by EV industry in the US. I suspect this sector has huge growth potential, unless it's stifled. I think these are the types of jobs that we want more of?
- The current credit plan has cancelation built in (200K max per manufacturer), so it will end itself in due course
- EV tax credit helps middle income taxpayers not just big companies
- EV market is on the cusp of rapid growth, US is behind the curve of purchasing
- EVs is most rapidly growing car segment = votes
- ???
- Get these bullet points out and in front of the most people possible. All the EV YouTube folks, at the upcoming TeslaCON, in front of all GOP congress members by as many people as possible. I don't think that we can just assume someone else will fix this or that the bill will change. GOP needs a win, and this bill seems likely to be it. Also the GOP leadership are probably being inundated by every lobbist and donor alike because of their pet loophole. So with so much noise, the EV community really has it's work cut out to not have this EV credit chopped. I consider it a hail Mary, but worth trying. Any volunteers?
You can always use the "ignore" feature. The thread was started as political partisan banter. It is called censorship when you think that no one should read specifically what you don't want to read. Perhaps the moderators should remove the posting privileges of those who believe in censorship for opinions contrary to their own.MODERATORS - Please remove the political partisan banter and remove posting privileges for those who continue to post this crap. 90% of T34ME's posts would fall into this category! Threads like these have become unreadable.
Not sure I would call anything official yet. The details of the bill are still in flux and as of a few minutes ago the Senate bill was still under wraps.John McCain Confirms: Tax Reform Is "DOA In The Senate"
It’s official: The Republican tax reform bill is dead on arrival in the Senate now that John McCain has become the third Republican senator to confirm that he plans to vote against it.
I wouldn't be doing any victory dances. The Senate GOP will produce a bill, and it's likely a bill will eventually go to the president. The key for those interested is to influence members of Congress to keep the EV tax credit in the version that passes.John McCain Confirms: Tax Reform Is "DOA In The Senate"
It’s official: The Republican tax reform bill is dead on arrival in the Senate now that John McCain has become the third Republican senator to confirm that he plans to vote against it.
Non-partisan, but not bipartisan. You didn't mention anything for people represented by Democrats. But I think the advice would be essentially the same, with more weight to # 1. A few Senate Democrats in particular are being "wooed" by the President on this.I think we should approach this in 2 different ways, depending on your personal views of the tax bill.
While I know this seems overly obvious, I don't think people are doing this. I also think this matters because I suspect this bill WILL pass in some form or another and we just don't know what form that is. If the GOP reps only hear "I hate it" and pass it anyway, well if you were #1 above you're screwed on both. If GOP hears "I'm ok, BUT", then we might get the EV credit language put back in before it's passed.
- If you hate the tax bill, contact your GOP representatives and tell them all the things you hate about the bill and that you don't want them to pass it
- If you generally like the tax bill, contact your GOP representatives and tell them that you generally like the bill, BUT the EV credit needs to be put BACK in
I attempted to make this post NON-PARTISAN. I'm giving both sides an angle to try and save the EV credit.
By the way, here's a GOP champion (from Nevada):
Electric vehicle buyers get an ally within GOP over repeal of the $7,500 federal tax credit
Agree! Also people who view taxes as stealing their income are often the first to scream when they don’t get the government services they use. Me, my, mine? No, you make a certain salary of income because the job market in your area enables it, and part of that is paying the local taxes. There are parts of the country with lower taxes, but few lucrative jobs.CALIFORNIA, worth every centavo and I have paid taxes here twice as long as you have.
I stipulate I am pissed off about elimination of the EV credit because I had planned on taking advantage of it in 2018. So you're saying it's OK for the government to (in effect) engage in an elaborate bait-and-switch to get EVs in production, then yank the support prematurely?If you really cared about the "greater good", you would acknowledge the booming economy and jobs market the U.S. has experienced over the last year, and how the broad based tax cuts will put more money in the pockets of millions of Americans and businesses, creating even more economic stimulus and jobs.