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If you're California, the economics in favor of a solar solution will likely get worse soon

rdunniii

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Jun 27, 2012
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Energy politics was the #2 reason I moved out of California. Water politics was #1. I am now worried that Nevada is following in their footsteps on both of these.
 

aesculus

Still Trying to Figure This All Out
May 31, 2015
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Northern California
Hopefully, as hydrogen powered fuel cell cars become the normal, we can use the excess electricity to produce hydrogen and throttle that.
Actually the big opportunity for hydrogen is to convert those gas fired power plants near a water source into hydrogen. Burns about the same so conversion is next to nil. And if you convert and burn onsite you don't have the pipeline problem you would trying to move hydrogen.

But alas they are probably decommissioning these plants rather than looking to the future when solar during the daytime is cheap to create H2 and you use hydrogen based power plants during the "dark" hours.
 

MXLRplus

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Mar 11, 2020
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Eastvale, CA
Hopefully, as hydrogen powered fuel cell cars become the normal, we can use the excess electricity to produce hydrogen and throttle that.
Hydrogen fuel cells for motor vehicle use is a stillborn tech. It has been made obsolete by the lithium battery.

A FCEV is a pure EV, except that instead of a battery, it stores 'electrons' in a hydrogen tank. The transportation and storage of H2 makes it more lossy than a Li battery. ie - more wasted electricity per mile.

It makes more sense to install fixed Fuel Cells at locations where H2 is produced. But wait! H2 is produced by steam reformation of natural gas. So it makes even less sense.

Trivia - The H2 FC powertrain in a Mirai costs roughly $50,000. Yes, they sell them at a loss.
 
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