Intifada isn’t antisemtic? (moderator edit)
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Israel/Hamas conflict
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Lot of hand waving distractions attempt there. She is talking about World Bank and EU funded schools in Occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. She never mentioned UNRWA schools. Apples and oranges.
Something tells me that you don’t want people to listen to an Israeli citizen whose daughter was a victim of a Palestinian suicide attack and started defaming her instantly. I wonder why.
Please don’t call the ADL stupid. That’s antisemitic.
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The ADL is a joke just like the UN, SPLC, and pretty much all the rest of the agencies and groups who support terrorists while calling for everyone who disagrees with them to be censored or jailed.
You quoted the Adl page on the intifada from over 30 years ago. Since then there was a second intifada and then a more general use of intifada. Meanings change over time.
Here’s what the ADL says about the current use of word and phrases/chants using it.
“4. If you hear people chanting “Globalize the intifada!” here’s what it means:
The chant is a reference to violent Palestinian uprisings against Israel, specifically acts of terrorism and indiscriminate violence against civilians by terrorist groups, including suicide bombings in buses and restaurants. This slogan has been chanted at anti-Israel rallies for years. Jews and Israelis hear this slogan as a call for indiscriminate violence against Israel, and potentially against Jews and Jewish institutions worldwide. “
From: Stop and Think: Anti-Israel Chants and What They Mean
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Wrong tactic to expand attacks in Europe. They would see a decline in their sympathy support:
www.telegraph.co.uk
Hamas plot to attack Jews across Europe is foiled by police
Seven arrests made during raids in Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands as fears grow that Middle East war is increasing global threat
www.telegraph.co.uk
I can’t say I agree....the hateful minority that take to the streets and airwaves...would probably welcome it and be very quick to attribute blameWrong tactic to expand attacks in Europe. They would see a decline in their sympathy support:
Hamas plot to attack Jews across Europe is foiled by police
Seven arrests made during raids in Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands as fears grow that Middle East war is increasing global threat
Radical Islamists: "Jews go back to Europe!"Wrong tactic to expand attacks in Europe. They would see a decline in their sympathy support:
Hamas plot to attack Jews across Europe is foiled by police
Seven arrests made during raids in Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands as fears grow that Middle East war is increasing global threat
Radical Islamists: "We will kill Jews in Europe too!"
All the while we are told by all our moral "experts" that being against Israel's existence is not anti-Semitic.
Yes. Meanings change over time and space and more importantly, when it is convenient for Israel and it’s unregistered foreign agent ADL. That page you linked never existed before October 7th
They also retroactively changed the meaning of “From the River to the Sea” only on October 26th after all the massively popular worldwide protests involving people of all faiths including Jewish people… oops.. better late than never
How it started..
How it’s going:
Last but not the least, this is Israeli Prime Minister’s son dodging the draft and enjoying American hospitality in Miami & hence well within ADL’s perview. Surely, the ADL has condemned him by now for calling for the extermination of 6 million Palestinians from the River to the Sea.
Personally - I didn't need the ADL to tell me that "From the River to the Sea" is a call to genocide.They also retroactively changed the meaning of “From the River to the Sea” only on October 26th after all the massively popular worldwide protests involving people of all faiths including Jewish people… oops.. better late than never
I just have to look at a map and have just a basic understanding of this conflict. Not to mention having a basic understanding of Gaza's government's genocidal charter and believing Hamas leadership when they say they desire to destroy every Jew on the planet.
Ok. So do you condemn Hamas AND Yair Netanyahu ?
Technically, the Palestinian state as envisioned by the UN Security Council (including the US) based on the 1967 borders, extends from the West Bank of the Jordan River to the Gaza Strip by the Mediterranean Sea. So both sides can use the phrase “from the river to the sea” to describe their state without denying the existence of the other state. So personally, I don’t condemn Yair or Hamas for using this phrase.
Charters change over time. Wish you a Happy new year 2017, when Hamas updated their charter to be in line with the international community’s vision of the Palestinian state. They also removed any language that could be interpreted as genocidal intent:
Hamas presents new charter accepting a Palestine based on 1967 borders | Hamas | The Guardian
Document aims to heal divisions within Palestinian movement and ease peace process but Netanhayu says: ‘Hamas is attempting to fool the world’
amp.theguardian.com
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A great documentary on the non-violent, peaceful Great March of Return by the people of Gaza, coincidentally in 2018, after the change in charter:
I am reminded of the great quote by JFK:
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”
I am reminded of the great quote by JFK:
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”
How many fathers did Yair kill in front of their children?
How many women did Yair torture?
How many elderly did Yair kidnap?
How many children did Yair burn?
What people and groups say is important to interpret in the context of their prior actions.
If the Palestinians would simply learn to be a civilized people and stop supporting terrorizing others, and concentrate on educating their children and locking up their criminals, instead of electing those criminals, Israel would have no need to bring those crimnals to justice when the Palestinians fail to do so themselves.
The short history of Israel is Arabs attacking Israel and Israel beating them back. Jordan and Egypt and others have learned their lesson. Palestinians have not. Hopefully they finally will this time.
navguy12
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From todays Toronto Star:
Jigglypuff
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My favorite current BIG LIE of the left is that it was all peaceful coexistence before the dirty, hooknosed, Zionist Jews came and ruined everything.
No, life for Jews was one of dhimmitude, third class life subject to the racist whims of Muslims. Violence and subjugation were the rule, not the exception.
No, life for Jews was one of dhimmitude, third class life subject to the racist whims of Muslims. Violence and subjugation were the rule, not the exception.
I merely posted the interview of an Israeli mother of a Hamas terror victim describing the actual situation on the ground in Israel and occupied Palestine
..and you (moderator edit)
(Note that I have used only Israeli and western sources for my posts.)
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navguy12
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Well, in this age of bots, etc, I don’t find any count of social media posts to be indicative of anything.
