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Israel/Hamas conflict
- Thread starter Buckminster
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I was fortunate to go to a Cal State when fees were around $250 a quarter. My parents moved just up the road from Cal Poly, SLO just after I left high school so I lived at home and commuted. I did graduate debt free, but that's very difficult these days.
The pier is complete. Hopefully the US will inspect all shipments and stop weaponry from coming in.
Aid begins arrives in Gaza via US-built pier
The UN World Food Programme will have a handful of staff stationed near the pier to coordinate distribution of the aid - using contractors - throughout Gaza, said a UN official said.www.jpost.com
That will help bring in humanitarian aid.
That will completely isolate northern Gaza. Southern Gaza has the Egyptian border.
Jigglypuff
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As expected, Israel will occupy Gaza and then grind away at Hamas until Hamas are powerless or all dead. The border with Egypt will be blocked. The people of Gaza will remain defiant and fight back, because they hate the Jews more than they love their own children, and so they will choose to suffer terribly. They complained of an "open air prison," which was laughable. Now they will experience actual occupation, since they pissed away 30 years of freedom and billions upon billions of dollars in their religious hatred. Meanwhile, the liberal democracy of Israel will carry on but a bit less liberally. The internal arguments over "settlers" have essentially ended. Israel may even close off all of southern Gaza, forcing the Gazans into a smaller enclave in the north while allowing anybody who wants to leave to do so permanently. Of course pretty much nowhere in the world would want a Palestinian refugee, and that goes triply so for the Arab nations. Then Kushner will get his seaside condos. Breaking the entire strip up into a few enclaves is also possible.
Israel wouldn't do this if they thought peace was possible, but the Gazans' actions of the last 30 years proved peace is impossible. Hamas killed 1200 Jews on October 7th, but even more profoundly, they killed the Israeli left. They may have also gotten Donald Trump elected, and Trump will absolutely give Netanyahu a free hand in Gaza. Bibi has until October of 2026 as long as he keeps his coallition together, and staying aggressive is the best way he can do so. He just has to survive Biden, and he's managing to do just that.
Israel wouldn't do this if they thought peace was possible, but the Gazans' actions of the last 30 years proved peace is impossible. Hamas killed 1200 Jews on October 7th, but even more profoundly, they killed the Israeli left. They may have also gotten Donald Trump elected, and Trump will absolutely give Netanyahu a free hand in Gaza. Bibi has until October of 2026 as long as he keeps his coallition together, and staying aggressive is the best way he can do so. He just has to survive Biden, and he's managing to do just that.
Gazans will now really understand what an open air prison really is. They squandered the freedom, self rule and all the aid that was bested on them for nearly 20 years.
Hate is deeply ingrained in their veins, thru systematic injection of antisemitism since childhood. But that is pretty much true of Islamic cultures in many parts of the world. I have seen videos of young Pakistani kids proudly expressing their dream and ambition of killing Hindus when they grow up.
Hope Trump wins and strengthens Bibi’s hand to end this problem once for all.
AMPd
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Most of those protestors are paid to be there, they CANT have open discussion because they don’t truly hold an opinion on the issue, they’re just there to collect a paycheck.
I always assume Anyone wearing a mask and hiding their identity at a protest is being paid to be there. They don’t want to be personally tied to the issue
As the IDF is clearing tunnels in Rafah they are finding bodies of hostages. So far 4 hostage bodies have been recovered. And the IDF said they had actually been killed on October 7th and Hamas took their bodies to Gaza.
IDF recovers bodies of four hostages held by Hamas in Gaza
IDF recovers bodies of four hostages held by Hamas in Gaza
Some of the protesters are paid plants, but it probably isn't "most". All it takes is a few to throw the movement into disrepute.
As for the similarity of the tents, John Oliver answered that question a few weeks ago. If you go to Amazon and look for their cheapest tent, up comes exactly the tent most of the protesters are using.
AMPd
Well-Known Member
IMO David Sacks mind is unshackled from reality most of the time.
Jigglypuff
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I was not expressing what I want or hope, just what I think will happen.
Gazans will now really understand what an open air prison really is. They squandered the freedom, self rule and all the aid that was bested on them for nearly 20 years.
Hate is deeply ingrained in their veins, thru systematic injection of antisemitism since childhood. But that is pretty much true of Islamic cultures in many parts of the world. I have seen videos of young Pakistani kids proudly expressing their dream and ambition of killing Hindus when they grow up.
Hope Trump wins and strengthens Bibi’s hand to end this problem once for all.
Gantz has demanded that Netanyahu agree to specific goals that Gantz wants. I honestly don't know where this will lead, but Netanyahu and Gantz are pretty close on goals, methinks.
Losing in Vietnam did not cost the US its existence. Hamas is dedicated to erasing Israel. Whether it is now or in the future the extremist nutjobs on both sides have to be stopped.
A bit semi-OT, but it seems that the Iranian president likely is dead. Here is the prediction market for his status:
manifold.markets
Will Ebrahim Raisi survive the helicopter crash?
12% chance. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/19/middleeast/iranian-president-raisi-helicopter-intl/index.html
No formal thread on this, but most relevant to this thread and the "Russia/Ukraine Conflict" thread.A bit semi-OT, but it seems that the Iranian president likely is dead. Here is the prediction market for his status:
Will Ebrahim Raisi survive the helicopter crash?
12% chance. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/19/middleeast/iranian-president-raisi-helicopter-intl/index.html
Many Israelis will not miss any Iranian leadership as they remain one of the primary benefactors to their hands: Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, and most recently launched a bunch of projectiles at Israel a few weeks ago. Ukrainians will neither be saddened with that same government responsible for giving Russia the many projectiles they continue to use to kill/injure many Ukrainian civilians with.
If the president of Iran was killed, his loss is not going to change Iran's policies much. The president of Iran basically serves at the will of the Ayatollah. His loss will disrupt the government for a short time as the new president gets up to speed, but it won't have any bit impact.
The accident is a tragedy though. Some families are probably missing loved ones tonight.
Immediately, perhaps not much, but long-term this does change some things. The Ayatollah is 85 years old and most analysts had pegged Raisi to be his hand picked replacement. Whether the geopolitical trajectory of their radical religious dictatorship changes as a result is unknown.
The protests a few years ago show that the bulk of Iran's population would like the religious dictatorship to end. It would be nice to see that happen and some government that wasn't so radical take its place.
It’s typical of lawyers who can’t differentiate between their own political beliefs, religious prejudices, ambition and the law.....I believe America is going through such a process as we speak
