40 minute time limit for all vehicles when Supercharger is at maximum capacityAs if superchargers weren’t packed enough already. Get ready for slow AF charging Bolts, Niro, and BZ4X to clog up our chargers even more.
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40 minute time limit for all vehicles when Supercharger is at maximum capacityAs if superchargers weren’t packed enough already. Get ready for slow AF charging Bolts, Niro, and BZ4X to clog up our chargers even more.
In some situations, a policy like that could prevent someone from making it to their destination or to the next charging station. Rather than prevent them from charging, I would rather see a modest, time-based fee that would discourage, but not prevent, long charging sessions.40 minute time limit for all vehicles when Supercharger is at maximum capacity
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My house is about 150 years old. When it was built, the US grid couldn't have handled one car. I doubt its current 200 amp service is anything like its first panel, either. The grid will adapt and be upgraded. The same is true of electric vehicle charging sites, both in locations and in stall counts.Except the grid really can’t handle even 20% total EV penetration.
Who’s paying for that?My house is about 150 years old. When it was built, the US grid couldn't have handled one car. I doubt its current 200 amp service is anything like its first panel, either. The grid will adapt and be upgraded. The same is true of electric vehicle charging sites, both in locations and in stall counts.
As long as it doesn’t apply to FUSC cars, cool.In some situations, a policy like that could prevent someone from making it to their destination or to the next charging station. Rather than prevent them from charging, I would rather see a modest, time-based fee that would discourage, but not prevent, long charging sessions.
The extreme beyond the holiday scenario would be the the once-in-a-lifetime scenario, like the 2017 total eclipse, where everyone in the country is trying to leave at the same time from the same place. Sure, way fewer Tesla's then, but way fewer superchargers as well. I don't seem them ever solving this, nor attempting to. Huge traffic jams from all cars, but huge lines at the superchargers as well. So glad I didn't bring the then-new Tesla on that trip...
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If 40 minutes aren't enough, the vehicle can go to the back of the line and wait for another 40 minutes session.In some situations, a policy like that could prevent someone from making it to their destination or to the next charging station. Rather than prevent them from charging, I would rather see a modest, time-based fee that would discourage, but not prevent, long charging sessions.
I could see that Applying to non-Tesla cars maybe but I think better is to surcharge past 30 mins for non-Tesla at half the idling rate in addition to the per kWh.If 40 minutes aren't enough, the vehicle can go to the back of the line and wait for another 40 minutes session.
As I mentioned before, this is only when the Supercharger is at maximum capacity.
Oh wow, you were serious! I thought you were just being sarcastic!Who’s paying for that?
Let’s say that cost isn’t a factor there, you already have brown outs in CA due to generation and transmission ability.
What happens when you quadruple the amount of electric cars calling on the grid to provide power it doesn’t have?
More along the lines of a lot of people live in older houses with what would today be considered substandard wiring and panels (FPE) — It sounds like you’ve invested in upgrading your home power distribution but someone who already can’t afford an electric car certainly wouldn’t be able to foot the bill to upgrade their panel and wiring without an incentive.Oh wow, you were serious! I thought you were just being sarcastic!
Better go study up on how the grid actually works and how and when EVs will use it.
Net is: it's already not an EV problem, and EVs are only going to help the situation.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that once-in-a-lifetime solar eclipse is going to repeat itself in April 2024, from Texas to Maine. Carbondale, Illinois is at the intersection of the 2017 and 2024 paths of totality.The extreme beyond the holiday scenario would be the the once-in-a-lifetime scenario, like the 2017 total eclipse, where everyone in the country is trying to leave at the same time from the same place. Sure, way fewer Tesla's then, but way fewer superchargers as well. I don't seem them ever solving this, nor attempting to. Huge traffic jams from all cars, but huge lines at the superchargers as well. So glad I didn't bring the then-new Tesla on that trip...
FUSC owners should get charging preference too???As long as it doesn’t apply to FUSC cars, cool.
I’m down with that.FUSC owners should get charging preference too???
The same limit should apply to all vehicles.I could see that Applying to non-Tesla cars maybe but I think better is to surcharge past 30 mins for non-Tesla at half the idling rate in addition to the per kWh.
If you're talking about individual or even neighborhood issues, then I'm with you. I thought we were talking about the Grid (capital G) though.More along the lines of a lot of people live in older houses with what would today be considered substandard wiring and panels (FPE) — It sounds like you’ve invested in upgrading your home power distribution but someone who already can’t afford an electric car certainly wouldn’t be able to foot the bill to upgrade their panel and wiring without an incentive.
This is what the federal subsidy money should be going to rather than into the pockets of the auto makers, many of who have already raised prices in anticipation of the handout given to them by the Congress critters.
This is eerily similar to *Learn to build solar panels*. Lol.These subsidies go to people who already can afford these vehicles without subsidies. Put grants into low income and rural communities. The areas of Kentucky that flooded are mostly poor rural areas. Some Homes don't have indoor plumbing let alone A/C and heat their Homes with wood burning stoves in winter because they can't afford to turn up the thermostat. There are areas all over the country that are like this. This is where this money should be going. Where are the Green jobs in Coal country to replace the Coal Natural gas and Oil jobs?
Maybe with a battery trailer.Eventually we will have to figure out how to charge vehicles that come into large disaster areas to rescue people and provide supplies and rebuild areas. I can guarantee there are no electric vehicles going into these areas and bringing supplies. Not even electric trucks. Would anyone here tow a trailer with supplies in it with their Tesla into a large disaster area.