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Leaked email - plans for 6000/wk by June
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Both Gigafactory and Fremont are pausing for upgrades. So it's probably related.
The new lines may already be installed. They were supposed to be shipped to the Gigafactory in March. By June they should be cranking out packs in large volume.
bambam4171
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Don't worry. He's probably talking about guys like me..... except I only drink root bear
Didn't knew bears were drinkable. Funny that, longs on the other side could be considered drinks
RobStark
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The plan is not for 6k per week in June but to test burst rates for 850 cars per day or 5950 per week.
They plan on 5k per week by early July maybe last week in June.
Then the plan is for steady state 6k cars per week a few months later.
They plan on 5k per week by early July maybe last week in June.
Then the plan is for steady state 6k cars per week a few months later.
I generally like the email and where he's coming from but...
As for precision, well, Elon has never been short on hyperbole. I doubt he meet what he's aspiring anytime in the near future (let's just call in the next 5 years).
As for supplier requirements, Tesla is small peanuts compared to the big automakers. If the demands are unreasonable given the timelines, cost targets and production targets and the relationship with suppliers becomes too adversarial, that could lead to production stoppages again (due to the supplier saying "see ya!") and scrambles to find replacement suppliers.
Remember, GM, Nissan-Renault Alliance, Toyota and VW group EACH produce about 10 million vehicles per year. Tesla hasn't even been capable of doing 200K in a year yet. If they achieve 6K/week sustained for a whole year w/0 downtime, that's 312K vehicles/year.
Side note: I've on and off seen ranks like Suppliers Like What GM Serves, Not So Much at Nissan (2017 N.A. Automotive OEM Study Shows General Motors Jumps to Third Place, Nissan falls to last, in Supplier Relations has a better chart). GM used to be TERRIBLE in this metric but has (amazingly) improved a LOT!
As the 2nd piece says
Regarding the part with contractors, I'm not sure if he's talking about suppliers or companies supplier contract workers or contractors perform certain work within the plant. If he fires them that quickly, depending on the nature of the work, there could be plant stoppages again.
As for precision, well, Elon has never been short on hyperbole. I doubt he meet what he's aspiring anytime in the near future (let's just call in the next 5 years).
As for supplier requirements, Tesla is small peanuts compared to the big automakers. If the demands are unreasonable given the timelines, cost targets and production targets and the relationship with suppliers becomes too adversarial, that could lead to production stoppages again (due to the supplier saying "see ya!") and scrambles to find replacement suppliers.
Remember, GM, Nissan-Renault Alliance, Toyota and VW group EACH produce about 10 million vehicles per year. Tesla hasn't even been capable of doing 200K in a year yet. If they achieve 6K/week sustained for a whole year w/0 downtime, that's 312K vehicles/year.
Side note: I've on and off seen ranks like Suppliers Like What GM Serves, Not So Much at Nissan (2017 N.A. Automotive OEM Study Shows General Motors Jumps to Third Place, Nissan falls to last, in Supplier Relations has a better chart). GM used to be TERRIBLE in this metric but has (amazingly) improved a LOT!
As the 2nd piece says
Suppliers love Toyota and Honda: Why that matters to you
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"leaked email"
LOL
He sent to every employee, he knew it would get out when he wrote it.
LOL
He sent to every employee, he knew it would get out when he wrote it.
Indeed... and sometimes, when some things are "leaked" by companies, sometimes it's intentional by the marketing or corporate communications dept.
Having been a supplier, I disagree with the last section. OEMs dictate what technology they will use, suppliers (at least the one I worked at) offer the best and latest things to everyone. That said, if the supplier is a PITA to work with, (and wants recycled tech), they likely won't have the top individuals on their project (nor is there a need to).
It may be that the ratings are based on company to company top level relations, not engineering level.
I know you're joking but the email actually addresses this issue - asking for burst rates of 6000 internally but stating 5000 as the public goal. This is something Musk hasn't really done enough of in the past - giving himself some margin. Look at the end of March situation, where they had managed to finally get the rate up over 2000 per week (compared to under 1000 per week just a few weeks earlier), yet the story was that they had missed the goal of 2500 per week. The reality was that they had made significant real progress, and yet got dinged for a failure by many in the media.So they have already missed their new 6,000 goal by only maybe hitting 5,950 ! ? ! ?
Another failure of EPIC PROPORTIONS. Next thing you know, they will walk it back to 5,940...
RT
Don't worry. He's probably talking about guys like me..... except I only drink root bear
Didn't knew bears were drinkable. Funny that, longs on the other side could be considered drinks
At first I’d inferred “root bear” was a play on words relating bears to sloths... a real groaner. Upon the realization that it may have been merely a typo, I am relieved and the pun police are placated.
SageBrush
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Interesting reply, thanks.
I have to admit that I was thinking of the person who leaked the email
Indeed I am...
As an avid Tesla watcher for 10 years now, I can tell you one thing with certainty. Dingers gonna ding.
It doesn't matter whether Tesla makes progress or not. It doesn't matter whether they meet their stated goals or come up short. It doesn't matter that they created a new American automobile manufacturing operation from scratch in 10 years (in California !) and kicking everyone's behind. Tesla could cover every square inch of the Earth's surface with Model 3 cars and the media would ding them for not creating more reclaimed land from the ocean to fill with new cars. For the media, its all about getting eyeballs on their website, and any Tesla story, especially negative Tesla stories, do exactly that.
I can say maybe one more thing with certainty... If you or anyone are waiting for the "media" to recognize that Tesla in general and Elon specifically are actually going about changing the world for the better, that is the path to endless frustration.
Tesla is taking hundreds of millions of dollars of business away from established companies, and it is only going to snowball from here. These dinosaurs and their paid politicians are not going down without a fight, and part of the fight is to get their "media" friends whom they support with advertising dollars to spread Tesla FUD from sea to shining sea, 24/7. Once you see this and understand what is going on, the world makes much more sense.
Every car manufacturer periodically shuts down assembly lines to fine tune them. Tesla does it and it is from page news. When did you last read a story about Fiat shutting down an assembly line to improve production?
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