cfOH
Member
Man, I am SO jealous of you guys getting <320 Wh/mi. Even when I try to drive gently, I end up with 340+. But that's in a hilly city with a P+, so maybe I should recalibrate my expectations.
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dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
I should split mine into the two discrete time period that I have. My last 876 miles are 294...
Will saying neener, neener get me flagged my the moderators?
ZBB
Emperor
I've had my car for 3 months as of today... Haven't posted here yet -- but here are my lifetime #'s for each of the 3 months (using calendar month -- so the first month is 4 days short)... Feel free to add the latest to the dataset...
Wh Miles State Battery Wheels N LastUpdate
ZBB 312 1592 AZ 60 19 1 6/30/2013
ZBB 308 2663 AZ 60 19 1 7/31/2013
ZBB 306 3676 AZ 60 19 1 8/31/2013
Comments:
I got 312 Wh/m in June, but then 302 in July and 300 in Aug. June was higher due to a combination of hot temps (hottest in June was 119...), and getting used to driving it -- learning when to lift off the throttle to maximize one-pedal driving for example.
I have a ~60 mile round-trip commute, about 1/2 freeway mostly at 65MPH limit and 1/2 streets with 45-50MPH limits. Essentially all downhill on the way to work -- with a gradual ~1250 foot elevation drop. Its not uncommon to see ~180-190 Wh/m on the ~28 miles to the office. Between uphill and cooling the car in Phoenix summers (the interior temp can be 105 at the end of the day -- and I'm parked in a garage), I've been seeing 350-400 Wh/m on the way home. I've experimented driving at the speed limit, 5 over and 10 over during the commute. 5 over will average just under 300 Wh/m over the whole commute.
Wh Miles State Battery Wheels N LastUpdate
ZBB 312 1592 AZ 60 19 1 6/30/2013
ZBB 308 2663 AZ 60 19 1 7/31/2013
ZBB 306 3676 AZ 60 19 1 8/31/2013
Comments:
I got 312 Wh/m in June, but then 302 in July and 300 in Aug. June was higher due to a combination of hot temps (hottest in June was 119...), and getting used to driving it -- learning when to lift off the throttle to maximize one-pedal driving for example.
I have a ~60 mile round-trip commute, about 1/2 freeway mostly at 65MPH limit and 1/2 streets with 45-50MPH limits. Essentially all downhill on the way to work -- with a gradual ~1250 foot elevation drop. Its not uncommon to see ~180-190 Wh/m on the ~28 miles to the office. Between uphill and cooling the car in Phoenix summers (the interior temp can be 105 at the end of the day -- and I'm parked in a garage), I've been seeing 350-400 Wh/m on the way home. I've experimented driving at the speed limit, 5 over and 10 over during the commute. 5 over will average just under 300 Wh/m over the whole commute.
AC1K
Member
Using several more hypermiling techniques, i can now crack 260 Wh/mi / 129MPGe daily driving (mixed hwy and slower traffic)
ill need to come up with more techniques or start driving illegally to break the 135MPGe mark
ill need to come up with more techniques or start driving illegally to break the 135MPGe mark
Al Sherman
It's about THIS car.
My August and updated lifetime numbers.
August:
Al Sherman 293 1165.4 IN P85 21 1
Lifetime:
Al Sherman 306 4590.8 IN P85 21 1
All from 9/01/13
August:
Al Sherman 293 1165.4 IN P85 21 1
Lifetime:
Al Sherman 306 4590.8 IN P85 21 1
All from 9/01/13
toto_48313
CAN P #5
My August and updated lifetime numbers.
August:
302 wh/mi 698 mi in P85 21
Lifetime:
299 Wh/mi 15798 mi in P85 21and 19
so the 300 Wh/mi used for the rated range is pretty accurate for my driving.
August:
302 wh/mi 698 mi in P85 21
Lifetime:
299 Wh/mi 15798 mi in P85 21and 19
so the 300 Wh/mi used for the rated range is pretty accurate for my driving.
dmckinstry
Model X 2019
Here are my data before and after a midsize road trip this past week.
Sorry for the quality of the shaky image, but the numbers are
2416.1 total miles, 723.3 kWh and 299.4 (calculated) Wh/mi. I did a range charge to 270 rated miles just before leaving. Regen was on low, and I used cruise control whenever I could.
After the trip from Cheney, WA to Centralia, WA the new information is given below:
The last charge was made at the Wild Horse Wind Farm. Also note that the 54 miles of rated range was after having left unplugged overnight. It was 60 miles upon arrival at home.
I tried to maintain about 60 mph, but had to go with traffic after getting onto I-5. On the way home, I got impatient after almost getting run off the road by a truck and upped to 67 mph.
I might mention that Cheney has an elevation of about 2500 ft, Vantage about 600 ft, the Wild Horse Wind Farm (where I did some of my charging) was at 3500 ft, and of course, Centralia is close to sea level. I did much better traveling to Centralia than returning. The trip also included about 40 miles of driving around Olympia. I generally get better mileage to and from Spokane that I do around Cheney. Cheney is about 500 ft higher elevation than Spokane.
I should mention that I just have the standard 85kWh pack, and that drove in range mode. That's not relevant actually, as I don't really overuse the AC and never accelerate with more than 160kW.
Sorry for the quality of the shaky image, but the numbers are
2416.1 total miles, 723.3 kWh and 299.4 (calculated) Wh/mi. I did a range charge to 270 rated miles just before leaving. Regen was on low, and I used cruise control whenever I could.
After the trip from Cheney, WA to Centralia, WA the new information is given below:
The last charge was made at the Wild Horse Wind Farm. Also note that the 54 miles of rated range was after having left unplugged overnight. It was 60 miles upon arrival at home.
I tried to maintain about 60 mph, but had to go with traffic after getting onto I-5. On the way home, I got impatient after almost getting run off the road by a truck and upped to 67 mph.
I might mention that Cheney has an elevation of about 2500 ft, Vantage about 600 ft, the Wild Horse Wind Farm (where I did some of my charging) was at 3500 ft, and of course, Centralia is close to sea level. I did much better traveling to Centralia than returning. The trip also included about 40 miles of driving around Olympia. I generally get better mileage to and from Spokane that I do around Cheney. Cheney is about 500 ft higher elevation than Spokane.
I should mention that I just have the standard 85kWh pack, and that drove in range mode. That's not relevant actually, as I don't really overuse the AC and never accelerate with more than 160kW.
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cfOH
Member
So I've been extremely jealous of all these sub-300 Wh/mi averages I've been seeing when mine has stubbornly hovered around 350 since I got the car a little over a month ago. In fact, I've been wondering if there's something wrong with my car to inflate the energy usage so.
So I decided to go out on a short test drive tonight to see how efficient I could be. I picked out a ~20 mile highway loop, turned on range mode, turned off A/C altogether, and then proceeded to drive like my dead grandmother: easy on the go pedal and never going above the speed limit (55 mph).
The results:
Turns out it's not the car at all...it's the guy behind the wheel. Oh, and hills...here in Cincinnati, we have boatloads of hills, and I noticed quite a dramatic effect on the average as I was going up some of our hills at highway speeds.
So, now that I know it's possible, I have a goal to gradually reduce my average to ~320 Wh/mi. Then, when I do want to, um, proceed "at pace," I can feel like I've earned some voltaic karma.
So I decided to go out on a short test drive tonight to see how efficient I could be. I picked out a ~20 mile highway loop, turned on range mode, turned off A/C altogether, and then proceeded to drive like my dead grandmother: easy on the go pedal and never going above the speed limit (55 mph).
The results:
Turns out it's not the car at all...it's the guy behind the wheel. Oh, and hills...here in Cincinnati, we have boatloads of hills, and I noticed quite a dramatic effect on the average as I was going up some of our hills at highway speeds.
So, now that I know it's possible, I have a goal to gradually reduce my average to ~320 Wh/mi. Then, when I do want to, um, proceed "at pace," I can feel like I've earned some voltaic karma.
Mike_Schlechter
Model S - P457
I wish there were a way to see wH/Mile based on profile. When I left on a two week trip my was doing 326 and now at 332 lifetime average. I don't know what my wife was doing, but I know she did it really fast.
I'm at 284 Wh/m at 9339.9 miles total distance traveled. I have a 60kWhr battery and 19" wheels.
Most of the miles are from my daily commute over Hwy 17, about 50miles round trip 450m of elevation gain to the summit, but not much chance to get over 60mph, and usually no need for air conditioning.
Most of the miles are from my daily commute over Hwy 17, about 50miles round trip 450m of elevation gain to the summit, but not much chance to get over 60mph, and usually no need for air conditioning.
glhs272
Unnamed plug faced villian
3481 Miles, Lifetime: 270 Wh/mi
S60, 19" Wheels, Air Suspension, Pano Roof, Tech, Leather, White, Lacewood, Delivered 8-1-2013
Al Sherman
It's about THIS car.
No question. It's doable. There isn't as much technique as with the Prius. If you drive like an old man (me) you get lower numbers. Sub rated road trips are easy on the average interstate at 60-70 mph. It's definitely not magic. Rated range is easy if you aren't in a rush.
Been there! Every time Dr. Sherman (aka: lead foot) uses the MS my numbers take a large jump. It's worth it because she really likes the car and is excited about her Model X. Maybe now she'll even let me get her a cellphone!:wink:
Hah, I have the same commute with an average of 320 wh/mile. However I mostly drive out of prime commute hours, which probably leads to more opportunities for spirited uphill passing.
DFibRL8R
Active Member
Update. I've put 3,000 miles on in the past month thanks to some nice road trips (love this car)!
Current stats for my 60kWh Delivered Feb 2: 293 Wh/mi 12,250 miles, VA, 60kWh, 19"
Current stats for my 60kWh Delivered Feb 2: 293 Wh/mi 12,250 miles, VA, 60kWh, 19"
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
320 Wh/mile at 11,407 miles. CA 19" 60 kWh.
Managed to bring it down from 321 Wh/mile despite such a big number-of-miles denominator and hot weather without changing my driving habits. I attribute that entirely to switching to Range Mode driving full-time since late August. See:
Driving in RANGE MODE all the time
Managed to bring it down from 321 Wh/mile despite such a big number-of-miles denominator and hot weather without changing my driving habits. I attribute that entirely to switching to Range Mode driving full-time since late August. See:
Driving in RANGE MODE all the time
Tacket
Member
Sparrow
S105/ Roadster 189
Sparrow 265 8615 GA 85 19 1 09/30/13 September was a short month with my car in the shop for a week. I had 249 Wh/mi over 570 miles for the month of September.
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