Ludicrous? RWD 70?

[Galve2000]

Only ludicrous? I'd been hoping for plaid ...

what will Tesla name the 0-60 in 1 second mode when it eventually becomes available? :biggrin:

 

[P85_DA]

Maybe I am wrong but I think Tesla really did right by P85D owners offering the $10,000 upgrade option for only $5,000. That's giving your existing customers preference over new ones, something that's rarely done these days.

is this correct pay $5k for something on web they are asking for $13k? its a battery plus software...if that is case than yes its great deal.. it just seems to good to be true and a lot of folks will be lining up for batteries..

 

[jsimon77]

So...if I spend 5k to upgrade my P85D do I own that fuse? My car is leased. I wonder if I can keep it when I turn the car in since I'm paying for it in full and then sell it to get some of my money back.

Any idea if 5k includes the install?

 

[cryptyk]

What happened to the boldfaced portion of this footnote to Tesla's P85D specs that was removed from Tesla's web site not that long ago?

"The P85D top speed is currently electronically-limited to 130 mph. In the coming months, we will be able to upgrade the car free of charge to enable a 155 mph top speed. This free update will be available for the lifetime of the car (not limited to the first owner). Additionally, an over-the-air firmware upgrade to the power electronics will improve P85D performance at high speed above what anyone outside Tesla has experienced to date. In other words, the car will be better than you experienced. This free upgrade will be rolled out in the next few months, once full validation is complete."

Today Musk announced a $10,000 Ludicrous Speed update. It wasn't exactly the "over-the-air firmware update" that was promised above. Am I not reading this correctly?

Are you going to ask this in *every* thread?

 

[Max*]

Are you going to ask this in *every* thread?

He has a point.

 

[lodenthal]

Nothing for the 60KW models.

 

[dsm363]

I suppose, but that doesn't seem to live up to the promise of what Tesla said. Today's update does, but is not an OTA update. I'll stop stirring the pot...

When did Telsa promise 2.8 second acceleration for the P85D? While only 0.1 second improvement they did deliver on that promise.

 

[mgboyes]

is this correct pay $5k for something on web they are asking for $13k? its a battery plus software...if that is case than yes its great deal.. it just seems to good to be true and a lot of folks will be lining up for batteries..

Other articles are saying that $5k is the *parts price* for the new fuses, for existing P85D owners wanting to upgrade.

So you also need to pay for labor, and more importantly you also need to buy a brand new 90kWh battery and sell your second hand 85kWh battery back to Tesla.

 

[P85_DA]

Other articles are saying that $5k is the *parts price* for the new fuses, for existing P85D owners wanting to upgrade.

So you also need to pay for labor, and more importantly you also need to buy a brand new 90kWh battery and sell your second hand 85kWh battery back to Tesla.

ok thats more in line with what was thinking.. its like the old + upgrade that ran ~20k..i hope they provide more details on the battery swap

 

[jsimon77]

Any thoughts on how this works on a leased car?

 

[ecarfan]

Anyone else surprised that additional RWD models were added (many speculated the RWD 85 would be eliminated)? I guess that helps with the entry price point.

I am not surprised, I'm pleased. With the 70D announcement some have claimed that Tesla was phasing out RWD cars. I never thought that was a good idea. The new Model S 70 price point is a good thing. It's the old 60 price but you get a lot more.
This should kill the speculation that the Model 3 base version will be Dual Motor. But it probably won't...

 

[Gizmotoy]

I am not surprised, I'm pleased. With the 70D announcement some have claimed that Tesla was phasing out RWD cars. I never thought that was a good idea. The new Model S 70 price point is a good thing. It's the old 60 price but you get a lot more.
This should kill the speculation that the Model 3 base version will be Dual Motor. But it probably won't...

They may have seen higher RWD 85 sales than expected after the 70D introduction. A lot of the luxury car buying public prefer their big sedans to be RWD. I know I have little to no need for AWD where I live. Realistically, I'd probably buy a RWD P85 again if it were an option.

 

[S'toon]

I am not surprised, I'm pleased. With the 70D announcement some have claimed that Tesla was phasing out RWD cars. I never thought that was a good idea. The new Model S 70 price point is a good thing. It's the old 60 price but you get a lot more.
This should kill the speculation that the Model 3 base version will be Dual Motor. But it probably won't...

They already announced the Model 3 was RWD, with Dual optional.

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/show...AWD-optional?p=1034878&viewfull=1#post1034878

 

[smilepak]

hmm, so now they have solution for all...Ahah

70 non D at 5k less
70D as current price
85 non D at 5k more
85D at 10k more
90D at 20k more

 

[stevej119]

hmm, so now they have solution for all...Ahah

70 non D at 5k less
70D as current price
85 non D at 5k more
85D at 10k more
90D at 20k more

Isn't the 90D only 3k more than the 85D?

 

[alexrov]

He has a point.

I don't agree. Tesla delivered on their promise to boost acceleration with an OTA update, which was the 3.2 to 3.1 change. I think that heckling them for more free upgrades is unreasonable. If they were able to further increase performance without additional hardware, then I'm quite certain they would have done so. I feel like maybe we were spoiled into thinking that the difference between a 3.2 and 3.1 zero-to-sixty is negligible, when in reality, it's a hefty boost.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Yes, this is actually the most surprising part of the announcement, to me.

Maybe they're seeing 70D's demand bump decreasing, so now it's time to see if the upgrade of the S60 to S70 will entice some more buyers, and entice some buyers to forgo the 85 and buy 70s with more high-margin bling.

 

[vitaliy]

5% range increase for $3k just got changed to 7% which is 5 extra miles

 

[alexrov]

5% range increase for $3k just got changed to 7% which is 5 extra miles

On the conference call, Elon Musk said it would be about a 15 mile increase in range.

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

Other articles are saying that $5k is the *parts price* for the new fuses, for existing P85D owners wanting to upgrade.

So you also need to pay for labor, and more importantly you also need to buy a brand new 90kWh battery and sell your second hand 85kWh battery back to Tesla.

Where are people getting the idea that you need to buy a brand new battery pack? Sure if you buy a P85D new you have to get the upgraded range to get this REALLY EXPENSIVE fuse. But, i don't think that means that the battery is technically required for it. It just means that's how Tesla sells it.

I fail to see how changing batteries is feasible, and why they would offer the upgrade if it needed the new battery.