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@phantasms Sub 4 second for non-P....wow.
I just got 2019.8.5 today and my butt dyno can feel a difference.
I just got 2019.8.5 today and my butt dyno can feel a difference.
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Yeah, and the dyno and @SleeperService data for P3D suggest it should be more torque all the way to at least 100mph. I think I just have a motor or battery that power limits below the new power level, because it is a dog. Woof.
I'm curious about your setup. What tires are you using? Do you do any prep (e.g. remove anything from the car?)? Those are some smoking numbers!
Just so you know, better tires will not effect 0-60 in the AWD model. The car is not traction limited. The 18 primacy tires get the same 0-60 times as the Pilot sport 4s@phantasms I'm curious about your setup. What tires are you using? Do you do any prep (e.g. remove anything from the car?)? Those are some smoking numbers!
@phantasms I'm curious about your setup. What tires are you using? Do you do any prep (e.g. remove anything from the car?)? Those are some smoking numbers!
Do you like Vbox or Dragy better?
@phantasms I'm curious about your setup. What tires are you using? Do you do any prep (e.g. remove anything from the car?)? Those are some smoking numbers!
Just so you know, better tires will not effect 0-60 in the AWD model. The car is not traction limited. The 18 primacy tires get the same 0-60 times as the Pilot sport 4s
Well, then that makes mine a Unicorn too. Maybe we secretly have P motors (I have heard they've used them on non-P cars).
Just so you know, better tires will not effect 0-60 in the AWD model. The car is not traction limited. The 18 primacy tires get the same 0-60 times as the Pilot sport 4s
It's my understanding, based on these comments, that both AWD and P drive units are the same part number but they are serialized for assembly binning. Therefore test results, captured on an individual unit basis, would dictate how the DUs get assigned to a particular car configuration (SR, LR, AWD, P).Everybody got P motors up through at least the end of 2018. This was repeatedly confirmed by both the Tesla parts catalog and people physically getting under cars and taking pics of part numbers.
It's my understanding, based on these comments, that both AWD and P drive units are the same part number but they are serialized for assembly binning. Therefore test results, captured on an individual unit basis, would dictate how the DUs get assigned to a particular car configuration (SR, LR, AWD, P).
Tracking by serial number is the point. I learned in this video (scroll to 6:15) that the robots take a picture of each fastener they install. Tracking DUs is child's play compared to tracking robot success rate on a individual fastener basis.He thinks it is impractical to track by serial number. Or at least that I think is the gist of it, I am sure he will say exactly what his position is. Yet there are many ways in which Tesla behaves seemingly irrationally.
Good luck with this argument with @Knightshade.
He thinks it is impractical to track by serial number. Or at least that I think is the gist of it, I am sure he will say exactly what his position is. Yet there are many ways in which Tesla behaves seemingly irrationally.
It's my understanding, based on these comments, that both AWD and P drive units are the same part number but they are serialized for assembly binning.
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Therefore test results, captured on an individual unit basis, would dictate how the DUs get assigned to a particular car configuration (SR, LR, AWD, P).
This means you have to do extra work any time you order a part, and the folks filling the order do extra work too- all for no upside, and it gets even worse if you have SCs keeping parts in stock on shelves, where the PN is the obvious visible way to tell them apart.
Everybody got P motors up through at least the end of 2018. This was repeatedly confirmed by both the Tesla parts catalog and people physically getting under cars and taking pics of part numbers. The quicker 0-60 of the P is entirely a software difference, not hardware.
Same is true on the P- the model 3 is not traction limited on any version even with all-seasons.
To be clear, I don't know what the true situation is, you might be right about this whole situation, though it does fly in the face of what Elon tweeted.
What is funny, though, is that Tesla does things all the time that require extra work...for example, not having spoilers and badges installed at the factory. I'm sure there are several other nonsensical things that Tesla has done that I'm not thinking of right now. So it does not seem entirely outside of the "Tesla Way" to do all this extra work.
I'm also not sure I agree on the "no upside". They don't seem to be able to determine in advance of building the motor what the motor output will be. They just have to build motors and test them, and they get what they get in terms of ones that are P-spec compliant, and ones that are not. Say they ended up with 50%/50% yield (above/below P-spec).
If that were the case, and they assigned a different part number for P-spec compliant motors, they'd have a problem with a surplus of P motors, since the product mix is skewed more to AWD.
For inventory, they have to label them at some point...they can't just sit around unlabelled and then label it when it's time to go in a car (maybe they can (my motor has no label!...and is also apparently a dog), but it seems confusing and they'd have to keep track of the test results...by serial number?). So seems like they may as well just slap the same label on everything and then track the serial number.
And then only P-spec serial numbers go in P-spec cars, while either type of serial number can go in AWD cars.