M3 LR RWD UK!

[Jason71]

Apologies if this has been posted before and I missed it but apparently Tesla are introducing a RWD LM M3.
I just saw it on a YouTube Video but it had entirely passed me by to that point

 

[Zilla91]

What i'd really want to see is a M3P RWD

 

[Jason71]

What i'd really want to see is a M3P RWD

So you want a 2 wheel drive with 500+ HP going to the rear wheels?
a) why?
b) don't hold your breath

 

[Zilla91]

Because it would be an absolute peach to drive. Less weight, more range, tail happy.

Would rival a BMW M3

 

[Mrklaw]

for businesses only! Who already have tax incentives over retail purchases! keep us in our place!

Anyway.. Assume once these are EoL after three years they'll be auctioned and off to anyone to purchase used? Will confuse things a little but could be the sweet spot as a used option

 

[Whyone]

So you want a 2 wheel drive with 500+ HP going to the rear wheels?
a) why?
b) don't hold your breath

Why would anyone who enjoys driving not want this?!

 

[WannabeOwner]

Apologies if this has been posted before

Well I did ... but your title is getting more traffic than mine did

new Tesla Model-3 400 mile range, only for businesses in the UK

Electrek article "Tesla announced that it is making a new version of the Model 3 with the Long Range battery pack and a single RWD motor, but it’s only available to businesses in the UK. Model 3 with a Long Range battery pack, but it only has a single rear-wheel-drive motor ... 394 miles...

teslamotorsclub.com

Why would anyone who enjoys driving not want this?!

Actually I very much enjoyed the fact that in MS Performance I could stop at the lights at a nearby roundabout, under dual carriageway, and then take the first 90-degree left exit up the ramp to highway. Using launch mode. In the wet. Very impressive. No drama

 

[DaveNN]

for businesses only! Who already have tax incentives over retail purchases! keep us in our place!

Anyway.. Assume once these are EoL after three years they'll be auctioned and off to anyone to purchase used? Will confuse things a little but could be the sweet spot as a used option

Business only and will soon hit the used market.
What's not to like?

 

[browellm]

I wonder if you could turn off the front motor in software on current LRs, whether you could achieve some of this range gain.

 

[DaveNN]

I wonder if you could turn off the front motor in software on current LRs, whether you could achieve some of this range gain.

How?
The motor isn't light..

 

[DaveNN]

How and or Why?
The motor isn't light..

 

[browellm]

How? because the motor would not be consuming battery and yes the front motor has mass, but also doesn't account for all the range loss. Notice how I was careful to say "some of this range gain".

Why? er, do I really have to answer that

IIRC the front motor already disengages dynamically when not needed for power or traction, to increase efficiency. Manually selecting it off completely would just be an extension of that behaviour.

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

Because it would be an absolute peach to drive. Less weight, more range, tail happy.

Would rival a BMW M3

BMW M3s are now typically AWD, I know what you mean, although maybe to deliver the power they need the plaid twin motorsa t the back for vector power delivery etc,. BMW would do stuff like this, Tesla just don't cater for individual tastes.

 

[Zilla91]

Not at all, it's just an option to get xdrive. They're RWD by default

 

[HaggisMan]

How? because the motor would not be consuming battery and yes the front motor has mass, but also doesn't account for all the range loss. Notice how I was careful to say "some of this range gain".

Why? er, do I really have to answer that

IIRC the front motor already disengages dynamically when not needed for power or traction, to increase efficiency. Manually selecting it off completely would just be an extension of that behaviour.

I believe track mode does this in the M3P. Doubt it will be coming to the rest of the range any time soon.

 

[Zilla91]

The weird thing with track mode is that in a straight line it always goes back to AWD

 

[JIBYC]

Go the other way and put it in off-road mode for Audi esq full time AWD.

 

[MrT3]

So you want a 2 wheel drive with 500+ HP going to the rear wheels?
a) why?
b) don't hold your breath

Why not? My previous car had close to 500 hp just going to the rear wheels.

But a 2WD M3P wouldn’t have 500 hp anyway, not without the front motor.

 

[ElectricPolice]

Back to the point of the thread rather than satisfying individuals personal preferences which is a constant circular debate through these forum pages leading nowhere...

This model achieves a whole 20 miles more than the current LR but assuming will be heavier with larger battery do we assume the accelleration will be slower than the current 5.8s for the standard RWD? Again, this will likely please some and annoy others. But it is an option for an intelligent person to consider and then buy or ignore depending on what they want.

Sorry, moan over...

I think the more important question is will the price drops filter through to the UK at some point? Why are we still unaltered with the US dropping twice?

Doing simple maths and following standard exchange rates on XE.com the US model 3 RWD s $39,990. taking off incentive $2k and federal credit $3,750 then add the destiantion fee $1,390 (forget the gas saving number as it's a variable for every driver) the total price is $35,630. In UK pounds this is £28,647

Could this be the future cheap car right now?

What will the Model 2 bring???

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

Back to the point of the thread rather than satisfying individuals personal preferences which is a constant circular debate through these forum pages leading nowhere...

This model achieves a whole 20 miles more than the current LR but assuming will be heavier with larger battery do we assume the accelleration will be slower than the current 5.8s for the standard RWD? Again, this will likely please some and annoy others. But it is an option for an intelligent person to consider and then buy or ignore depending on what they want.

Sorry, moan over...

I think the more important question is will the price drops filter through to the UK at some point? Why are we still unaltered with the US dropping twice?

Doing simple maths and following standard exchange rates on XE.com the US model 3 RWD s $39,990. taking off incentive $2k and federal credit $3,750 then add the destiantion fee $1,390 (forget the gas saving number as it's a variable for every driver) the total price is $35,630. In UK pounds this is £28,647

Could this be the future cheap car right now?

What will the Model 2 bring???

I think your assumptions are wrong.

I assume it will have the same battery as the current AWD LR, and will be lighter than the AWD LR because it has one less motor.

I also understand the LR battery is lighter than the regular RWD LFP battery whilst having a greater capacity (different chemistry) and can deliver more peak current

So a LR RWD car would be the lightest model and performance would be much better than the regular RWD. Tesla did do a M3 RWD LR in the US for a while and it had a 0-60 time of 5s, I’d expect the new model to be similar