M3P- . What is it, how to order it, etc.

[Knightshade]

Incorrect. The rear drive unit is a different part number.

No, he's not incorrect.

The guy you're replying to specifically cited 2018 AWDs regarding that part.

Which have the same rear drive unit PN as P cars do.

(ditto for early 2019s- it's somewhere around April 2019 the first AWDs with a different rear DU began appearing in the US)

 

[mreynolds767]

The main thing proving it is 99% software based is not in the rear but the front anyway.
The performance gets much more power from the front motor yet every part up front is the same

 

[P3dStealth]

Did you get 3.5 by filling out the application or is that just what the website says?

I ask because if you qualify for a better rate from the bank they use the rate can come back lower than the website shows (happened to me, with a much lower rate than what the website stated at the time I applied)

You are right. Tesla says lowest advertised rate is 3.5 right now but they came back to me with 3.29% through chase. Chase own website advertised 4.19 as the lowest so its even lower than that.

This is a 60 month loan now I am wondering if 72 would be lower or higher..

 

[norby]

Would it is best to place an order and then have a SA try to find one or just wait and see if some show up in California?

 

[shiftkenny]

Would it is best to place an order and then have a SA try to find one or just wait and see if some show up in California?

No it doesnt work that way unfortunately. If you sold on getting a Stealth I would wait..

 

[norby]

No it doesnt work that way unfortunately. If you sold on getting a Stealth I would wait..

That is what I was thinking. I guess I will keep watching and waiting. Thanks!

 

[m3-ricardo]

Well .. after some thinking and figuring out my priorities .. i've decided to pass on the stealth performance. -- and just stick with my AWD order.

If the cars had been closer to WA, (nearest build that i wanted is in chicago) .. then i might consider it ..

cost is too high still for a feature that i dont think i will use often enough .. (i estimated that overall the stealth would cost me over $5000 more than my AWD drive.. (combinationn of the 19" vs 18", the price increase in model 3's since my order, and the money i would loose on WA tax incentives for trading in a car) ..

so i guess for me $5000 is too much to ask for just more acceleration.

 

[dandrewk]

Probably save a bunch on insurance as well.

 

[Rachmaninov]

It obviously depends on your state and individual insurance company but I believe insurance costs are based on the cost of the vehicle.

To the best of my knowledge there is no distinction in the Tesla VIN# that identifies a performance version.

 

[Sklith]

Has anyone with a M3P- attempted a top speed test? I would like to try on mine but I haven't had the chance yet.

 

[Knightshade]

It obviously depends on your state and individual insurance company but I believe insurance costs are based on the cost of the vehicle.

To the best of my knowledge there is no distinction in the Tesla VIN# that identifies a performance version.

Yeah, all dual motor 3s, P or not, have the same VIN designation for motors.

FWIW my insurance company asked me for the VIN, and nothing else. Not even the price of the car. So presumably a P or an AWD would be the same premiums.

 

[dandrewk]

It obviously depends on your state and individual insurance company but I believe insurance costs are based on the cost of the vehicle.

To the best of my knowledge there is no distinction in the Tesla VIN# that identifies a performance version.

I didn’t know that there was no distinction in the VINs.

However, it’s a lot more than just the cost of the vehicle. Why else do many insurance companies charge more for a Model 3 compared to a similar price Nissan Leaf?

A few years ago I shopped around for the best insurance for my Nissan Z car. AAA refused to insure. “We do not insure high-profile cars, or households that have high profile cars.” Extreme? Yes. Hopefully that attitude has changed.

 

[dandrewk]

Yeah, all dual motor 3s, P or not, have the same VIN designation for motors.

FWIW my insurance company asked me for the VIN, and nothing else. Not even the price of the car. So presumably a P or an AWD would be the same premiums.

Interesting. I wonder if there are differences in the Vin for turbo charged and non-turbo charged cars of the same make.

 

[norby]

Interesting. I wonder if there are differences in the Vin for turbo charged and non-turbo charged cars of the same make.

I talked to my insurance company, State Farm, and they said it was about $10 more per month for the Performance. I would make sure they have the right info, because if it is totaled they will replace it with what was indicated on the policy. In other words, if they have it on the policy as a LR AWD and it is actually a Performance, they will pay as if it is a LR AWD. I haven't asked about the M3P-, but I would guess that you either have to pay more or insure it as a Performance.

 

[dandrewk]

I talked to my insurance company, State Farm, and they said it was about $10 more per month for the Performance. I would make sure they have the right info, because if it is totaled they will replace it with what was indicated on the policy. In other words, if they have it on the policy as a LR AWD and it is actually a Performance, they will pay as if it is a LR AWD. I haven't asked about the M3P-, but I would guess that you either have to pay more or insure it as a Performance.

Good point. Did they specifically ask if it was a P, or did you volunteer the info?

 

[Judders]

I really hope Tesla offers a upgrade for all of us with or awd. I’ll gladly pay 2k for the speed capability. Not that already running near 4 isn’t good enough

has it been confirmed if these stealth performances do or do not have track mode?

 

[norby]

Good point. Did they specifically ask if it was a P, or did you volunteer the info?

I don't own one yet, so I was just getting an idea of how much the premium would be. I actually work in the insurance industry, so I am probably more aware of issues that could come up.

 

[Knightshade]

has it been confirmed if these stealth performances do or do not have track mode?

Every P comes with track mode (in the US anyway)

 

[Judders]

Every P comes with track mode (in the US anyway)

Saying the ones that are lr awd upgraded?

 

[LD83]

Saying the ones that are lr awd upgraded?

Confirmed that my stealth has track mode.