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Speaking of presidential competence, we really had a doozy of an example with the tv spectacle today among the prez, Pelosi and Schumer. Two of the three showed presidential cred. Trump keeps handing the dems so many gifts. He must want to destroy the Republican Party. (I don't have a link handy but I don't think you will miss it on the evening news.)

But then who are we compared to the prez's superior intellect? The deal is already cast, Pence will pull a Ford within ten minutes of Trump's resignation. You heard it here first (although someone else whispered it into my telly.) What genius planning, parlaying a lie about a birth certificate into the presidency in order to get a pardon for all previous criminal activity. Brilliant!

Stephen Mnuchin will make a great movie about this. Title suggestion: The Outsider Turns Everything Inside Out from the Inside to Stay Outside. Alternative, The Worm Turns After a Wiggle or So.

(This could go on forever, but poetry is verboten here. Besides, an unpilot I am not.)
 
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There is a massive amount of misinformation out there. We all could go back and forth, but never get anywhere. I have a proposal. Since this is the TMC forum, if the Chinese auto tariffs decrease below 15% within the next 6 months then you all have to give Trump credit. No saying, that he had nothing to do with it. If the tariffs increase over 15%, then I will concede that Trump may be the lying conman that you all claim.

They're now going right back to 15%, where they were before Trump started bloviating.
China Agrees to Reduce Tariffs on U.S. Autos

As several people at this website predicted, Trump *created* a problem, and is now taking credit for reversing the *problem of his own creation*. We are right back where we were when he started.

So. Are you willing to concede that Trump is a lying conman, or at least that he's incompetent? He got China to raise tarriffs for a few months and then drop them back to... exactly where they were before he started shooting his mouth off.
 
Speaking of presidential competence, we really had a doozy of an example with the tv spectacle today among the prez, Pilosi and Schumer. Two of the three showed presidential cred. Trump keeps handing the dems so many gifts. He must want to destroy the Republican Party. (I don't have a link handy but I don't think you will miss it on the evening news.)

But then who are we compared to the prez's superior intellect? The deal is already cast, Pence will pull a Ford within ten minutes of Trump's resignation.
It's not actually clear whether it's legally possible to pardon someone generically for "all crimes". That's evidence of corrupt intent in issuing the pardon, at the very least, and that corrupt intent is itself a crime (and an impeachable offense). In particular, most legal experts say that it's impossible to pardon someone for crimes which are *in the future*, or which are *continuing* at the time of the pardon. Make no mistake, Trump is still engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the fake charity "Trump Foundation" at the very least.

More relevantly, Trump has shown an unwillingness to resign.
 
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No, actually, the same discussions of Trump have been occurring for many years mostly at the vendor and banking levels. They know exactly what kind of person he is. It's only when he succeeded in getting onto the national political stage that the circle of people that were interested increased. It has taken some time, and it will likely take a bit more, for the true description of Trump to come out but it is slowly coming out. Very few people outside of Alaska had a clue who Sara Palin was before she stepped out onto the national stage.

And incidentally, from following Sarah Palin's record before she got national attention, she actually had a very solid record as a *reformer* and a *good-government* type! Betcha didn't know that. She was fighting to remove self-dealing, kickback-taking, bribe-taking Republicans for her entire Alaska career.

(Palin is not very bright and rather ignorant, but she was much much cleaner than Frank Murkowski who she ran against. Credit where credit is due.)
 
If the US ended the war on drugs, then made all the recreational drugs legal but heavily regulated (and taxed), the illegal drug trade in Central America would dry up and the gangs would starve for lack of income. That's what happened when prohibition ended in the US. The criminal gangs involved in the alcohol trade remained for a few years trying other lines of business, but eventually starved out.
This a million times. This actually is a simple solution...
Politicians have avoided dealing with many of the world's problems because they are too complicated, but when someone comes along who thinks there is a simple solution and tries it, it usually just gets dramatically worse.
Sometimes politicians avoid the simple, effective solution, and turn to something ineffective and destructive, because they want to express their displeasure with people who use recreational drugs. Or express their displeasure with women who have sex. Or with people who worship different gods, or no gods. Or whatever. This is what I consider evil political activity: hurting everyone in an ineffective attempt at "virtue signalling". Right-wingers seem to looooove pointless, meaningless virtue signalling.

I support legalization of all drugs. And I actually oppose the recreational use of drugs. It's just blatantly obvious that prohibition is counterproductive. So let's cut it out.

Likewise, it's well past time to legalize prostitution; making it illegal has only hurt the sex workers by putting them at threat from the police. They want it brought out in the open so abusive clients and abusive pimps can be arrested. Why not? Prohibition certainly hasn't reduced prostitution, but prohibition has increased kidnapping and sex trafficking. This doesn't mean I think prostitution is a good *idea*.

After looking at the history of communism, I also think we should legalize private for-profit business. It seems to be impossible to stamp it out, and trying to prohibit it seems to cause lots of trouble and very little benefit. And that doesn't mean that I think private for-profit business is a *good* idea -- I don't think that "greed is good". Greed is bad, and we can see the problems with it in the greedy monopolistic international megacorporations. which have resulted -- but we should regulate and tax for-profit business, rather than prohibiting it, since prohibition doesn't work.

What I'm saying is, I'm practical. And a lot of people aren't: they're virtue-signalling with no attention to practicality.
 
They're now going right back to 15%, where they were before Trump started bloviating.
China Agrees to Reduce Tariffs on U.S. Autos

As several people at this website predicted, Trump *created* a problem, and is now taking credit for reversing the *problem of his own creation*. We are right back where we were when he started.

So. Are you willing to concede that Trump is a lying conman, or at least that he's incompetent? He got China to raise tarriffs for a few months and then drop them back to... exactly where they were before he started shooting his mouth off.

U.S. China trade is about $636B per year ($506B from both China to U.S. and $130B from U.S to China in 2017). U.S. auto sales in China about $10B and China auto sales in U.S. about $1B, so automobile sales are less than 2% of the trade issue. One can't look at one sliver of the picture and say "We are right back where we were when he started."
 
the issue of Chinese intellectual property theft is only going to get lip service from the Chinese,
That's because the *actual* problem, as many people in the tech industry and creative industries will tell you, is the US's brazen and ridiculous invention of "intellectual property". There is no such thing, and copyrights and patents have been extended well past any reasonable level. China's been doing this *right* and the US has been doing it *wrong*.... recently. China is actually following the same approach to "intellectual property" that the US followed in the 19th century, *and China knows that*, even if people in the US have forgotten this.

Simple solution: say no to Disney, slash copyright terms, get rid of "patents" on mathematics (which were never supposed to be legal), and leave trade secrets as the wild west (they're secret until someone finds them out, and then you're Sorry, Out of Luck).

No points for explaining why we haven't adopted the simple solution. (*cough* Disney)
 
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The opioid crisis isn't helped by the economic conditions among whites with poor educations, but over prescription of opioids is fueling it too. A lot of illegal opioid users started with a prescription after an injury.
Moderator Deletion, and an out- in-the-open
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The very next time you present a post that dispenses medical advice - which this and more than a few prior posts of yours has done - you will be permanently banned from TMC.

ZERO tolerance.


 
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It's not actually clear whether it's legally possible to pardon someone generically for "all crimes". That's evidence of corrupt intent, at the very least. In particular, most legal experts say that it's impossible to pardon someone for crimes which are *in the future*, or which are *continuing* at the time of the pardon. Make no mistake, Trump is still engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the fake charity "Trump Foundation" at the very least.

More relevantly, Trump has shown an unwillingness to resign.

I claim writer's license. It would only be federal crimes, as with Ford pardon. Civil and state would remain hazards. Have you heard the one about the centipede and the wise old monkey of the jungle?

On resignation: It's his best choice, although the teller of that tale expects it to occur before a Democratic president is inaugurated next time.
 
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Doing proportional voting for House seats nationally would require a Constitutional Amendment. The only countries that do this are fairly small. It could easily lead to some small states having no representatives in the House at all. I think it's a non-starter in the current House and probably a non-starter in almost half the state legislatures.

You could do it at a per-state level, though (proportional within each state), without amending the Constitution. Easy. Wyoming, Alaska, etc. would still get their one representative each.
 
I smell Congress overriding a shutdown attempt. All Trump can do to attempt a shutdown is to veto a budget bill, and vetoes can be overridden.

Do you think Paul Ryan wants to retire on a government shutdown? I don't... he has nothing to lose by telling his caucus to override it.

I may be wrong, but I'm getting the whiff of dissension in the Republican ranks...
 
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And incidentally, from following Sarah Palin's record before she got national attention, she actually had a very solid record as a *reformer* and a *good-government* type! Betcha didn't know that. She was fighting to remove self-dealing, kickback-taking, bribe-taking Republicans for her entire Alaska career.

(Palin is not very bright and rather ignorant, but she was much much cleaner than Frank Murkowski who she ran against. Credit where credit is due.)


I give Sarah a ton of credit. Sure, she was not smart enough not to jump in the infinitely deep end of the pool WHILE the sharks were circling below but she has since recovered and quickly learned how to make a significant buck playing the talking head role. I suspect she is reasonably bright but just let here ego get ahead of her then current capacity. What's that saying? Confidence, that feeling you have right before you face plant.
 
They're now going right back to 15%, where they were before Trump started bloviating.
China Agrees to Reduce Tariffs on U.S. Autos

As several people at this website predicted, Trump *created* a problem, and is now taking credit for reversing the *problem of his own creation*. We are right back where we were when he started.

So. Are you willing to concede that Trump is a lying conman, or at least that he's incompetent? He got China to raise tarriffs for a few months and then drop them back to... exactly where they were before he started shooting his mouth off.

My quote clearly states “after six months”. There is still a lot of time on the clock. There is obvious progress being made and part of the reason is because the tariffs helped bring them to the negotiating table. Not sure why you replied to my quote with so much time left and progress being made.

I will also note that there was not one person that took me up on my proposal. I assume it is because there is a possibility of tariffs being lowered but nobody wants to give him credit.

My proposal still stands. Neroden, will you be the one to take me up on it? After six months at the time of the writing that post, if tariffs for Tesla are lower than 15% will you give Trump credit? If they are higher then I will admit he is a lying conman.
 
Speaking of presidential competence, we really had a doozy of an example with the tv spectacle today among the prez, Pelosi and Schumer. Two of the three showed presidential cred. Trump keeps handing the dems so many gifts. He must want to destroy the Republican Party. (I don't have a link handy but I don't think you will miss it on the evening news.)

But then who are we compared to the prez's superior intellect? The deal is already cast, Pence will pull a Ford within ten minutes of Trump's resignation. You heard it here first (although someone else whispered it into my telly.) What genius planning, parlaying a lie about a birth certificate into the presidency in order to get a pardon for all previous criminal activity. Brilliant!

Stephen Mnuchin will make a great movie about this. Title suggestion: The Outsider Turns Everything Inside Out from the Inside to Stay Outside. Alternative, The Worm Turns After a Wiggle or So.

(This could go on forever, but poetry is verboten here. Besides, an unpilot I am not.)

Sorry, didn't notice Pence was there as mannequin.
 
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Fascinating reading all this. Heartland I will take you up on your bet for sure.
Will you then admit that trump is a serial womanizer who had sex with a porn start right after his son was born?
Will you admit that his pandering to the base about Obama not being a US citizen was a blatant lie?

On the point of legal drugs...why can't everyone agree this is by far the best way forward.

Please read "Chasing the scream"
 
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