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Not sure what you're advocating here. So... I typically drive with enough torque on the wheel to make sure the car knows I'm engaged in the driving task. But not so much as to override AutoSteer. But somehow adding just a little bit more torque tames an inherently underdamped steering controller? If this is true, how would I exploit this to make AP handle better? Shouldn't we just submit bug reports on the underperforming system so that Tesla can fix it?I always drive with a small counterweight on the right side of the wheel.
I also have HW 2.5 and have gotten both alerts, stop sign and red traffic light.I've been driving with 40.2.1 for 4 days. I've used it with and without NOA in city and on highway. I have yet to see a Stop Light or Stop Sign alert. I still have HW 2.5, is that why?
Are you in city or on highway? Are you using NOA,Nav without autopilot, cruise control and/or auto-steering?I also have HW 2.5 and have gotten both alerts, stop sign and red traffic light.
Please explain and describe "ping-pong".40.2.1 definitely noticed ping-pong on autosteer especially on HOV lane with divider close on the left side, even wife noticed it in the passenger seat. SR+ hw 2.5, delivered 3/30/2019.
I have a question for discussion.
What is the purpose of having the traffic light and stop sign "warning" as opposed to simply showing us the stop sign or light when they are detected?
My suggestion is to simply have the stop and sign and/or traffic light display on the screen when they are detected. If one of them shows up when a sign or light is not viewed by the driver, they could flag a bug report. When a sign or light exists and does not display, a bug report could also be sent.
Would not that providde more useful data for training the neural net, and be far less dangerous?
I had the alerts on local roads when using just AP. Stop signs detection if very rare and I only been able to get the alert twice when I tested it by slowing down the AP to about 3mph as I was approaching a stop sign. It only alerted as the car was about to cross past the sign, so at this time it's is pretty much useless.Are you in city or on highway? Are you using NOA,Nav without autopilot, cruise control and/or auto-steering?
Do we know for a fact* that this is the case? There have been several instances now of me "Bug Report"ing incorrect speed limits that appear to have had been corrected after I started reporting them. Others have reported same. I'll have to start monitoring my car's data usage when on my wireless network to see if outbound traffic goes up after using that tool.Given bug reports stay on the car and are only reviewed if you schedule the car for service- no.
Do we know for a fact* that this is the case? There have been several instances now of me "Bug Report"ing incorrect speed limits that appear to have had been corrected after I started reporting them.
I have a question for discussion.
What is the purpose of having the traffic light and stop sign "warning" as opposed to simply showing us the stop sign or light when they are detected? To alert the driver.
Now we have people attempting to go thru red lights and stop signs to "test" this feature. Dangerous for sure, and not desirable imo. Agree
My suggestion is to simply have the stop and sign and/or traffic light display on the screen when they are detected. If one of them shows up when a sign or light is not viewed by the driver, they could flag a bug report. When a sign or light exists and does not display, a bug report could also be sent. If driver's not responding, an alert should be shown. A bug report would be after the fact and not help the driver at the time.
Would not that provide more useful data for training the neural net, and be far less dangerous? What?
What say you folks? Thanks.
Please explain and describe "ping-pong".
I've been driving with 40.2.1 for 4 days. I've used it with and without NOA in city and on highway. I have yet to see a Stop Light or Stop Sign alert. I still have HW 2.5, is that why?
I wouldn't even begin to suggest that my specific bug reports are being looked at by a Mk. I Meatbag in the Tesla Mothership every time I make one.And 100 times more cases where they weren't corrected- Suggesting any where they were were coincidence of just getting fixed in a normal map update.
A moments thought will tell you there's no way Tesla who doesn't have enough people to even answer phones has enough people to be listening to every bug report from a fleet of what's rapidly approaching half a million cars- and likely to approach 1 million in another year.
Not sure what you're advocating here. ... But somehow adding just a little bit more torque tames an inherently underdamped steering controller? If this is true, how would I exploit this to make AP handle better? Shouldn't we just submit bug reports on the underperforming system so that Tesla can fix it?
Constant subtle but noticeable corrections left and right between the lane. It used to drive dead center straight in the middle of the lane, now it constantly swerves left and right and if you hold the wheel just tight enough you feel the constant corrections in both ways.
I suspect this is something to do with side sensors and trying to give more clearance away from a wall or big truck. I noticed red side bumping animations when it is doing this. Especially noticeable on hov lane with divider close to the left side.