Exactly. I’m holding out for features that the end user benefits from...,dual-glazed windows.
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2021 Model 3 and differences from 2020
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Could be 5% energy density improvement on cells.
Panasonic boosts energy density, trims cobalt in new 2170 battery cell for Tesla – TechCrunch
AlanSubie4Life
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Unlikely, but possible.
In any case what you're suggesting implies that they did this only on the Performance and not on the AWD, which doesn't make a ton of sense.
We'll see. It'll be obvious when people get their cars delivered and take the two critical pictures of the Energy consumption screen which tell you the nominal maximum energy content.
Air suspension?? Now I'm really sadhttps://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1319363500695785473?s=20
Green with some info from the software.
- Top console that nobody noted?
- Heated steering wheel
- Efficiency package, probably the heat pump
- Heated radar
- USB-C in glove box
- Liftgate
- New wheels added
- MY with 3rd row flat fold, and HEPA filter.
- ADAPTIVE SUSPESION, in the works for 3/Y
- And talks about sourcing new radar with higher res and longer range
He’s saying air suspension could be a future addition. There’s no confirmation and certainly no timeline
Air suspension?? Now I'm really sad
Zcd1
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Air suspension might actually make me consider upgrading...
I am just suggesting the refresh is related to energy density improvement. The kWh numbers in EPA tests are just too "random" to explain.
For example, Why didn't Tesla pick another 2021 LR car with ~80.8kWh after they performed a test with only 78.557kWh? Impossible for us to explain.
"OEMs do the range testing in-house to the EPA's specifications and provide the report to the EPA. In about 15% to 20% of the time, the EPA takes the report and conducts its own testing in-house to verify the OEM's data."
Porsche Taycan Turbo Crushes EPA Range Rating On Our 436-Mile Drive
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Air suspension is a huge upgrade. I would be mad about it but I'd consider the trade for it also.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
There are a lot of reasons for this.
The Adjustment Factor Tesla Uses to Get Its Big EPA Range Numbers
It’s also maybe a bit easier to make the EPA range if you start off less efficient like the Porsche (assuming it is not drivetrain losses proportional to power output), since aero is a smaller factor in overall consumption. They appear to have averaged 340Wh/mi and I don’t get the sense they were going 80mph (at that speed you see about 300Wh/mi in a Model 3). Says they went 70-80mph.
Not ruling out that there is a hidden density improvement, but the car is not lighter and it has no more energy available for now (in the LR). Maybe later.
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Up until 2020 model 3 LR had 75Kwh battery, right? Where do the 78.557 and 80.8 come from?
AlanSubie4Life
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No that is incorrect. Always been in the range of 78-80kWh. Except for original LR RWD which was software locked a bit lower for a while (later unlocked for owners to full capacity).
SMT typically shows around 78kWh when new.
Vehicles start showing loss of rated miles below 76kWh (pre-2020) and 77.6kWh (2020).
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But you're locked down and can only dream of zooming around Britain and Europe in a Tesla with double paned side windows when there's an effective and widely available vaccine maybe in a couple of years, right? So not an urgent question?
Double paned to keep the virus out
Well that’s strange.
I guess they ran out of regular side glass towards the end of the 2020 production?
either way, Atleast they look like they’ll work on existing 3’s for a swap out
quietblade
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Hippogrief
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So that car got only laminated windows for the front doors and the windscreen. The two other doors had normal windows. This is a SR+, so probably one of the new ones from China (there was no stock left in Belgium on oct 1st)
