PACEMD
Active Member
As Nancy said........Just say no to creep. There is no argument made for safety or maneuverability advantages that couldn't easily be doubled in reverse. If you just dig it fine, but nothing more than that.
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MASTER THREAD for V10 2019.32.12.4
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gcmak
Member
Might be location bias, but creep is incredibly helpful for inclines all the way to the very steep 18% grades of San Francisco where I live...and as an added plus, feels smoother for my passengers and me when negotiating with indecisive drivers. Unlike many manual cars I've driven, with those cars I can aid in saving my clutch and have a quick back-up with the handbrake...not so much in this car. And this car really doesn't like two pedal driving haha.
Looking forward to continued updates, regardless.
Looking forward to continued updates, regardless.
You can create multiple profiles, one with and one without creep, and switch between them fairly quickly.
Just be aware that it appears the new features are actually in 2019.36.x, not 2019.32.12.4. (And it was just on Wednesday that Tesla said that the new features/performance would be available in a few weeks.)
diamond.g
Active Member
Yeah, but what does that have to do with switching profiles that are already configured? (I'm pretty sure that someone has said that that works.)
pcons
M3 AWD+
Didnt work for me when I tried it a few months back. Tried making a profile for garage parking, but need to switch to park to get creep to actually turn on or off.
Tried again. Still didn't work.
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WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
Ok so that’s a downer. It’s funny how some people are so against creep because somehow it’s a legacy thing. Absolutely baloney. I learned on a 5MT (actually it might have been a 4MT). Anyway, point is before I’d ever driven an automatic transmission there were times where I wished it were easier to roll forward a little, or roll back a little - while using the brake for modulation, especially on inclines. It’s objectively easier to park in a tight space when you have the equivalent of Creep enabled.
Case in point, - my Tesla sales rep whom I later became friends with - was anti-creep because it was legacy/outdated blah blah (even setting aside that we still have steering wheels and pedals and windows and trunks etc - I mean come on, it’s still a car...). I had him try and park his own Model 3 he’s had a year now - in a tight parallel parked space, and in my garage without Creep. It was hilarious watching him try. Absolutely hilarious. Rolling back and forth, moving his foot to the brake in panic etc.
Creep makes it easier and/or POSSIBLE to park in many situations without it being stressful or a nuisance. I’ll upload a video at some point of parking in my garage. Good luck without Creep.
Case in point, - my Tesla sales rep whom I later became friends with - was anti-creep because it was legacy/outdated blah blah (even setting aside that we still have steering wheels and pedals and windows and trunks etc - I mean come on, it’s still a car...). I had him try and park his own Model 3 he’s had a year now - in a tight parallel parked space, and in my garage without Creep. It was hilarious watching him try. Absolutely hilarious. Rolling back and forth, moving his foot to the brake in panic etc.
Creep makes it easier and/or POSSIBLE to park in many situations without it being stressful or a nuisance. I’ll upload a video at some point of parking in my garage. Good luck without Creep.
pcons
M3 AWD+
I totally agree with the creep enable for parking. Like I said earlier, I wish there was a simple tap to enable it for those situations. In my garage there is a slight lip/transition from the driveway to the garage. Even in my wife's Bolt having 'creep' on makes it much easier to get over this transition which is around 1.5" so you need a decent amount of momentum or a tap of the accelerator to get the car in the garage. Its easy on her car because I can get in and out of creep with a quick flip of the shifter. On my model 3 because I'd have to go into park (even with a different profile as I posted above), I resort to having some ugly wood blocks outside of the garage to make the transition easier to manage....
Heck, we are getting 'true' one pedal driving in the latest update so maybe this will be another feature coming....while we are at it, it would be good to have an easy way to flip between low and standard regen....again, this is something I got very used to in both of my Volts and my wife's Bolt. When on the highway its nice to switch to standard regen mode. This is something that can be managed through driver profiles, but that is still a few clicks/cumbersome vs a flick of a switch you dont need to look at....
firebird8302
Member
The new features are not included with 2019.32.12.4 a3dc21e.
My car got the OTA update for 2019.32.12.4 a3dc21e on 10/23 and it's just a V10 bug fix like the other recent post V10 updates.
No new features.
My car got the OTA update for 2019.32.12.4 a3dc21e on 10/23 and it's just a V10 bug fix like the other recent post V10 updates.
No new features.
So sometimes when you release the accelerator, you want the car to slow to a complete stop.
But other times when you release the accelerator, you want the car to slow to ~5 mph, and add power to hold that speed as needed.
And the car is supposed to knows which one is which even though your behavior is the same.
The obvious way to implement one pedal driving is to only allow it with creep disabled.
Otherwise you’re asking the car to try to decide when you want it to creep and not, and undoubtedly folks will complain and possibly get in accidents if the car guesses your intent wrong.
CharleyBC
Active Member
Hmm. I have a precision parking situation in my garage, and have never used Creep Mode. Just gentle use of the accelerator. Yet I see your point. It's worked fine for me with Creep off. So long as my wife doesn't tickle my driving leg at a critical moment.
I would welcome one-pedal driving!
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
There are of ways for it to be implemented while keeping Creep enabled while using this true one-pedal driving. I’ve not read anything suggesting it won’t work with the latest update. We’ll see, of course.
For one thing, it could use geolocation to bypass one pedal driving while at my house. That would be something!
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
Here you go: one reason why Creep is useful. Good luck not crashing into my garage wall without it.
gcmak
Member
Yep and now try to do it on a 10% slope without creep and that'll really impress the masses. Long Live Creep.
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
firebird8302
Member
TomT
Technical Maven
Creep is a bug, not a feature. It only exists because vehicle manufacturers were not successful in engineering it out of automatic transmissions and torque converters way back when... I vehemently dislike creep.
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