PACEMD
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As Nancy said........Just say no to creep. There is no argument made for safety or maneuverability advantages that couldn't easily be doubled in reverse. If you just dig it fine, but nothing more than that.
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I agree with it needing a shortcut to Creep on/off. This would solve a bunch of issues.
Glad they have the release number. One of the things I dislike the most about these ‘feature stories’ is that they never/seldom include a release number.
Isn't creep greyed out if not in park?You can create multiple profiles, one with and one without creep, and switch between them fairly quickly.
Isn't creep greyed out if not in park?
Didnt work for me when I tried it a few months back. Tried making a profile for garage parking, but need to switch to park to get creep to actually turn on or off.Yeah, but what does that have to do with switching profiles that are already configured? (I'm pretty sure that someone has said that that works.)
I totally agree with the creep enable for parking. Like I said earlier, I wish there was a simple tap to enable it for those situations. In my garage there is a slight lip/transition from the driveway to the garage. Even in my wife's Bolt having 'creep' on makes it much easier to get over this transition which is around 1.5" so you need a decent amount of momentum or a tap of the accelerator to get the car in the garage. Its easy on her car because I can get in and out of creep with a quick flip of the shifter. On my model 3 because I'd have to go into park (even with a different profile as I posted above), I resort to having some ugly wood blocks outside of the garage to make the transition easier to manage....Ok so that’s a downer. It’s funny how some people are so against creep because somehow it’s a legacy thing. Absolutely baloney. I learned on a 5MT (actually it might have been a 4MT). Anyway, point is before I’d ever driven an automatic transmission there were times where I wished it were easier to roll forward a little, or roll back a little - while using the brake for modulation, especially on inclines. It’s objectively easier to park in a tight space when you have the equivalent of Creep enabled.
Case in point, - my Tesla sales rep whom I later became friends with - was anti-creep because it was legacy/outdated blah blah (even setting aside that we still have steering wheels and pedals and windows and trunks etc - I mean come on, it’s still a car...). I had him try and park his own Model 3 he’s had a year now - in a tight parallel parked space, and in my garage without Creep. It was hilarious watching him try. Absolutely hilarious. Rolling back and forth, moving his foot to the brake in panic etc.
Creep makes it easier and/or POSSIBLE to park in many situations without it being stressful or a nuisance. I’ll upload a video at some point of parking in my garage. Good luck without Creep.
I actually think it’s important to have both. Creep is safer in so many ways, especially for tight parallel parking not on flat surfaces, or trying to inch out from stop signs where you can’t see well. In my garage I have to park around 2 inches from my wall. Without creep this is near impossible. Covering the brake is just safer in these cases.
Anyway, very interested to see how this new feature will behave with Creep enabled.
Hmm. I have a precision parking situation in my garage, and have never used Creep Mode. Just gentle use of the accelerator. Yet I see your point. It's worked fine for me with Creep off. So long as my wife doesn't tickle my driving leg at a critical moment.Very much this.
No - I too use it as @WilliamG explains. It allows much more precise positioning. I too am in a tight garage parking situation and it is made much easier with creep - feathering my brake pedal.
So sometimes when you release the accelerator, you want the car to slow to a complete stop.
But other times when you release the accelerator, you want the car to slow to ~5 mph, and add power to hold that speed as needed.
And the car is supposed to knows which one is which even though your behavior is the same.
The obvious way to implement one pedal driving is to only allow it with creep disabled.
Otherwise you’re asking the car to try to decide when you want it to creep and not, and undoubtedly folks will complain and possibly get in accidents if the car guesses your intent wrong.
Yep and now try to do it on a 10% slope without creep and that'll really impress the masses. Long Live Creep.Here you go: one reason why Creep is useful. Good luck not crashing into my garage wall without it.
Yep and now try to do it on a 10% slope without creep and that'll really impress the masses. Long Live Creep.
Looks like 12.8 has been released. Any details?