Chuq
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The Canadian part of the North American power grid is as stable and reliable (or maybe better) as the U.S. part.
My random speculation is wrong then
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The Canadian part of the North American power grid is as stable and reliable (or maybe better) as the U.S. part.
* Climate - the batteries are going to start off cold and the heaters are going to be on a lot - reducing range.
Kingston is in the Canadian Banana Belt. Sure, it gets cold for a few days (-20, perhaps), but a Northern prairie winter day can be -40 or -45.I would bet by far the climate issue is the biggest one. Gets cold enough to freeze the knackers off a Tasmanian Devil up here. And if Elon spent a winter in Ontario at Queens University then he would know!
Tesla doesn't like to build superchargers that you can't get to from other superchargers, so for the TCH they could start at Calgary and go east or start at Sudbury and go west or start at Winnipeg (connected to North Dakota) and go both ways. They seem to be opting for #3 at first; hopefully they'll do all 3 once they get rolling. As for why the middle first, my guess is it's just where they found suitable sites first.Prawda appearing in permit is very exciting. But where the heck is Winterpeg, er... Winnipeg?
[Edit: and Grand Forks, for that matter.]
[Edit x2: And not that I have anything against Manitoba, but how come 3 of 4 SCs in permit stage in Canada are there? Is there actually more building activity, or greater permit lead times, or more transparent permitting, or more vigilant Tesla enthusiasts?]
My point is that for Elon Musk, who grew up in South Africa, where being cold would be a heat wave for us, it would give him a sense of our winters. Even if Kingston might have only gotten really cold once or twice that winter, that would stick with him.Kingston is in the Canadian Banana Belt. Sure, it gets cold for a few days (-20, perhaps), but a Northern prairie winter day can be -40 or -45.
You do have to expect a significant range loss in that kind of weather.......
With the supercharger map update, I noticed that Winnipeg got bumped to " Target Opening in 2019" while all the other Manitoba locations remain slated for 2018.
Hmm. When I look at the map, it still says opening in 2018.
They must have changed it since yesterday - it said 2019 then. I downloaded all the status info yesterday and it was definitely 2019.Hmm. When I look at the map, it still says opening in 2018.
... if 160.9km* apart is needed for winter
The potential for bad conditions in the northern parts of the US in the Mountain time zone are actually much worse than anything you would see in Canada. You have extremely high speed limits and large elevation changes. You won't have those issues driving across northern Ontario.
Tesla doesn't like to build superchargers that you can't get to from other superchargers, so for the TCH they could start at Calgary and go east or start at Sudbury and go west or start at Winnipeg (connected to North Dakota) and go both ways. They seem to be opting for #3 at first; hopefully they'll do all 3 once they get rolling. As for why the middle first, my guess is it's just where they found suitable sites first.
Elon's parents are from Canada and South Africa, other relatives from US and Britain. He was born in South Africa and went to school there. His college days were spent in Ontario (Canada) at Queens University and University of Pennsylvania (U.S.). He has a cousin in Saskatchewan.My point is that for Elon Musk, who grew up in South Africa, where being cold would be a heat wave for us, it would give him a sense of our winters. Even if Kingston might have only gotten really cold once or twice that winter, that would stick with him.
Generally, do it by the numbers.
Largest disconnected metros:
#7 Winnipeg, MB: 705,224
#14 Halifax, NS: 403,131
#19 Saskatoon, SK: 246,376
#24 Regina, SK: 215,106
#49 St. John's, NL: 108,860
#50 Thunder Bay, ON: 107,909
So to me the priorities would be:
1) Clearwater, MN to Winnipeg, MB: connects #7 to Toronto, ON on the fastest route, and to Quebec and the Maritimes with some diversion.
2) Riviere du Loup, QC to Halifax, NS: connects #14 to the "grid". (Adding St John, NB and Baileyville, ME would then also make a good connection between the USA and the Maritimes)
3) Calgary, AB to Regina, SK: #3 to #24
4) Winnipeg, MB to Regina, SK : #7 to #24
At that point Superchargers would allow direct or fairly travel between all the largest metro areas except Saskatoon, SK, which is unfortunately off the main East-West path, but ...
5) Regina, SK to Saskatoon, SK: #19 it wouldn't take much more to connect those two 200k+ areas.
6) Winnipeg, MB to Sudbury, ON: not that much population along that _very_ long route. Yes, we all want completion, but surely there are priorities.
7) Subdury, ON to Ottawa, ON
Generally, do it by the numbers.
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Largest disconnected metros:
#7 Winnipeg, MB: 705,224
#14 Halifax, NS: 403,131
#19 Saskatoon, SK: 246,376
#24 Regina, SK: 215,106
#49 St. John's, NL: 108,860
#50 Thunder Bay, ON: 107,909