Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation [Car announced 04.23.2024]

[Lolo780]

Tesla already does this with the Model 3 and Model S with their track packs.

https://shop.tesla.com/product/2017-2023-_-model-3-track-package

https://shop.tesla.com/product/model-s-plaid-track-package

I was thinking more like carbon brakes and proper track tires 275 or wider. Frunk delete with vented hood...

 

[Lets go Plaid]

So the existing Model 3 Performance has 455hp, so if this is correct we're looking at 163hp bump. Any idea what that translate to a 0 to 60MPH time.

 

[Ultimos]

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Model 3 Performance certification is leaked in South Korea it seems. Since it is rumor and I am nobody, take this information with a grain of salt.

It is going to be dual motor awd with 215ps front motor and 412ps rear motor. So if calculation is correct, it is going to have 618hp.

domestic/import: import
import company: Tesla Korea Inc.
manufacturer: Tesla Motors
manufactured country: China
car name: Model 3 Performance
fuel: electricity
car type: 003
motor type: 3D3 (front), 4D2(rear)
car type: car(small)
max output: 215ps (front), 412ps (rear), 6625rpm (front), 8000rpm (rear)
battery voltage: 355V
transmission: automatic
Gross weight/weight: 2180kg, 1844kg

message: need to confirm emission and noise certification
issue:
comment: high temp: city: 444.195km (276mi), highway: 412.07km (256mi), overall 429.739km (267mi)
low temp: city: 321.593km (199mi), highway: 402.739km (250mi), overall 358.109km (222mi)

Edit 1: Based on specs on the rumor, it is going to be 82kwh battery.

Power and range are both pretty underwhelming tbh.

 

[gearchruncher]

I was thinking more like carbon brakes and proper track tires 275 or wider. Frunk delete with vented hood...

The track pack for the Model S IS carbon brakes.
Which themselves are total poser material. Real track rats get rid of carbon brakes. They're too fragile and expensive. And they don't do what most people think they do.

But you're moving the goalposts. You said:

Tesla should play the optional equipment game that all the others do and offer race tires and brakes as a dealer/factory add on to set fast laps. Maybe partner with a suspension company as well.

Tesla already does sticky tires and brakes. Now that you see they do, you're talking about vented hoods? On an EV that wouldn't get more cooling from that? All of this sounds like you want looks not speed.

 

[Lolo780]

So the existing Model 3 Performance has 455hp, so if this is correct we're looking at 163hp bump. Any idea what that translate to a 0 to 60MPH time.

450 plus the two 5% software bumps. I'm thinking it has 40-50 extra. Just enough to go 2.99 to 60mph and 10.99 1/4 mile.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

According to this he says ~2.2 tons which is about 4500 not sure how accurate he is though.

Kia EV6 GT weighs 4,795 lbs. The Ioniq 5 typically weighs more than the equivalent EV6. The Ioniq 5N will weigh close to 4,900 lbs.

 

[mpgxsvcd]

450 plus the two 5% software bumps. I'm thinking it has 40-50 extra. Just enough to go 2.99 to 60mph and 10.99 1/4 mile.

I have done a 3.01 0-60 mph without subtracting rollout in a Model 3 but that car is no where close to a 10.99 1/4 mile.

 

[Lolo780]

The track pack for the Model S IS carbon brakes.
Which themselves are total poser material. Real track rats get rid of carbon brakes. They're too fragile and expensive. And they don't do what most people think they do.

But you're moving the goalposts. You said:

Tesla already does sticky tires and brakes. Now that you see they do, you're talking about vented hoods? On an EV that wouldn't get more cooling from that? All of this sounds like you want looks not speed.

The dealer options are mainly for magazine lap time bragging rights. Every time I hear someone quoting nurburgring lap times that were done by a pro driver on R tires with a race seat, harness and roll cage I gotta laugh. Totally meaningless for 99.99% of buyers.

And the local track guys take out the frunk liner and channel air out the hood for better battery cooling.

 

[Lolo780]

I have done a 3.01 0-60 mph without subtracting rollout in a Model 3 but that car is no where close to a 10.99 1/4 mile.

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What's your best guess based on "618" advertised hp?

 

[Lets go Plaid]

So with a 163hp bump surely we're looking at a bit better then 2.99 0 to 60MPH

 

[Sweed269]

4D2 rear motor. exactly what I thought it would be. The newest version of the 4D1 performance motor.

 

[cptnslo]

4D2 rear motor. exactly what I thought it would be. The newest version of the 4D1 performance motor.

source?

 

[gearchruncher]

It is going to be dual motor awd with 215ps front motor and 412ps rear motor. So if calculation is correct, it is going to have 618hp.

A reminder that Tesla once advertised a P85D as "691 HP" but that was the power in the front motor plus the power in the rear motor.
What they forgot to advertise was that the battery was limited to 557 HP.

 

[Sweed269]

source?

Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation

The Tesla engineers just stated that they won't do a tri motor Model 3 because the motors would be "hard to fit" in the Jay Leno video.

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[Lolo780]

4D2 rear motor. exactly what I thought it would be. The newest version of the 4D1 performance motor.

I asked AI about this new R2D2 motor.

 

[Joshker]

Am I reading too much into the Jay Leno 24 Model 3 special about the suspension? Start at 22:09 They discussed the suspension/dapening/shocks then Lars specifically called out the single and dual motor cars. Maybe it is possible the performance car is getting something similar to what’s in the S/X?

 

[buckets0fun]

Maybe it is possible the performance car is getting something similar to what’s in the S/X?

A lot of sadness will come from a 3 performance on air suspension.

 

[terranx]

A lot of sadness will come from a 3 performance on air suspension.

Adjustable dampers with steel springs would go a long way though

 

[Lets go Plaid]

Maybe there will be 2 different specs, Performance/Ludicrous.

 

[buckets0fun]

Maybe there will be 2 different specs, Performance/Ludicrous.

This isn’t rivian, more submodels is not better and doesn’t ‘simplify manufacturing’.

Remember, we used to have model 3 mid range and long range rwd.