The new figure appears to be with rollout, based on results achieved by various automotive publications. See
Tesla starts advertising quicker 0-60 mph acceleration for Model 3 Performance
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Model 3 Performance (P3D) now officially 0-60mph in 3.3 seconds!
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Tesla starts advertising quicker 0-60 mph acceleration for Model 3 Performance
JeffK
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JeffK
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add back rollout to MotorTrend and you have 5.0 to 5.1 seconds
as for Vehicle Virgins, you have to add 0.2 - 0.3 seconds to account for rollout (since he's using a vbox) and then you have to consider he was going downhill on all runs.
Corrected after second look.
Same 3 versions for LR AWD. From the top,
- Performance with suspension improvements. (P+)
- Performance with standard suspension. (P-)
- Base LR AWD
Old: Model 3 LR (RWD)
New: (Apparently not available)
New: Model 3 MR (RWD)
Personally:
- Product line rationalization makes sense.
... Provides a lower-cost entry point with only four variants.
... Clear added value for each price increment.
... No hand-waving about how range compares between Dual Motor LR and RWD LR.
- Looking forward to enjoying the same acceleration in our P- as P+ drivers enjoy. Track mode would be nice, too.
- Model 3 LR RWD could become a Unicorn cherished by hypermilers.
Same 3 versions for LR AWD. From the top,
- Performance with suspension improvements. (P+)
- Performance with standard suspension. (P-)
- Base LR AWD
Old: Model 3 LR (RWD)
New: (Apparently not available)
New: Model 3 MR (RWD)
Personally:
- Product line rationalization makes sense.
... Provides a lower-cost entry point with only four variants.
... Clear added value for each price increment.
... No hand-waving about how range compares between Dual Motor LR and RWD LR.
- Looking forward to enjoying the same acceleration in our P- as P+ drivers enjoy. Track mode would be nice, too.
- Model 3 LR RWD could become a Unicorn cherished by hypermilers.
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JeffK
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Suspension on the P3D+ is great, smoother and even takes bumps and corners better than any other car I've ever personally owned or driven for that matter, even with the low profile tires.
I've driven plenty of cars with higher profile tires which couldn't take potholes or bumps nearly as graceful as P3D+.
Did I mention how much I love my car?...
They can fix that easily and make the LR slower and match the advertised 5.1 sec.
JeffK
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Nah, like I posted on the previous page the video from DragTimes, linked to from that article, really did 0-60 mph in over 5 seconds according to the vbox graph.
There are threads out there stating Tesla did just that, and slowed the car down with a software update:
Reports of slower accelleration after latest update.
I doubt they will make the AWD any faster on paper. Tesla would want to make a clear difference between P and AWD performance to upsell people.
SageBrush
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It is interesting that the 4.5 seconds of the D-AWD did not change. So long as Tesla is being consistent in its testing and reporting method, this does appear to be a real jump for the P Model 3
Unfortunately not.
“We asked Tesla if the quicker acceleration time is due to updated software or hardware, but the automaker says that it is not the case.”
Tesla starts advertising quicker 0-60 mph acceleration for Model 3 Performance
SageBrush
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That would seem to cover the bases ... unless Tesla just flipped a switch on the currently installed software and that is not called an update ?
"Does the 3.3 seconds 0-60 time include roll-out ?" is the more direct question.
JeffK
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There's no truth to these.
Flipping a switch would be software, and from everything we know they are simply using rollout specifically with the performance model.
Knightshade
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This is pretty simple.
On S/X all non-P vehicles list 0-60 without rollout (ie the real life 0-60 time) and the P models list 0-60 WITH rollout (the sexy car magazine number with 1 foot rollout that isn't how 0-60 works in real life).
The Model 3, until this week, listed all versions with the real life 0-60... 5.1, 4.5, and 3.5 respectively (and now 5.6).
Starting this week they've switched the P3 to use rollout like the P models of the S/X, thus knocking 0.2 off the posted time without actually being any faster.
No cars got faster, or slower, they just switched to magazine numbers instead of real world ones on the P3, as they've always done for the S/X P models.
The only weirdness here is that every other car maker includes rollout for ALL their cars so it's easier to compare them fairly.
Tesla only does it on the P models to make the P look more "worth it" compared to the non-P
On S/X all non-P vehicles list 0-60 without rollout (ie the real life 0-60 time) and the P models list 0-60 WITH rollout (the sexy car magazine number with 1 foot rollout that isn't how 0-60 works in real life).
The Model 3, until this week, listed all versions with the real life 0-60... 5.1, 4.5, and 3.5 respectively (and now 5.6).
Starting this week they've switched the P3 to use rollout like the P models of the S/X, thus knocking 0.2 off the posted time without actually being any faster.
No cars got faster, or slower, they just switched to magazine numbers instead of real world ones on the P3, as they've always done for the S/X P models.
The only weirdness here is that every other car maker includes rollout for ALL their cars so it's easier to compare them fairly.
Tesla only does it on the P models to make the P look more "worth it" compared to the non-P
I’m afraid so. With the advent of the 3, I thought Tesla was making everything consistent: 0-60 without rollout. At least it lasted for a while.
That said, I wouldn’t mind a future software upgrade that knocks off a few tenths. But the car already drives almost like Centauri’s in The Last Starfighter, so I can't complain.
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When I read that a “Website Update” made my car 0.2s faster I was dancing around in circles worshipping Tesla being able to accomplish the unthinkable. Now you are saying my car is not any faster? I won’t be able to sleep tonight. Thanks!
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