Model S range and interior update imminent?

[thebishop]

I resemble that remark, I think they call those character lines.

I forgot about leather in winter. I guess you can't turn on seat heaters with the app? I never tried. A cold day here is 5C...

oh yes you can, it’s an awesome feature. Best winter car ever. Except for lack of cleaning of sensors...

 

[aerodyne]

oh yes you can, it’s an awesome feature. Best winter car ever. Except for lack of cleaning of sensors...

When 40 deg c, going to 25c in the time it takes to walk to the parking lot, makes it the best summer car ever.

 

[Zooomer]

My guess is that the 'refresh' is pretty minor. Lots of small changes.
I think the intention is to prepare for the Plaid which will use new cells and a 3 motor design. They prob needed more fender room for hub motors so they put the fenders out a little.
USB C if they haven't
possibly dual pane glass
Heat pump
Fog lights
basically the changes in the smaller cars that are already done.
It will be disappointing if headlights aren't changed
I'm guessing pricing stays the same, configs for LR and Perf versions stay the same
Hoping for interior changes, quieter, more luxury but not holding my breath
I think they'll announce either during earnings or more likely between Jan 31st 8pm EST (or 24hr window after that)
As of this morning there were 7 Model S left for sale in Scal

 

[thebishop]

When 40 deg c, going to 25c in the time it takes to walk to the parking lot, makes it the best summer car ever.

definitely agree! Remote heat/cold that is so fast is awesome.

 

[aerodyne]

British humour, sorry.

Whatever happens today, regardless of the season, hope we all can agree:

https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-Model-Best-Car-Ever/dp/098606890X

 

[nilspjac]

Things I want:

1000km «range» - Measured how? If I get 600km ACTUAL range, even when wet and colder, I'd be quite happy.
Better headlights - Yup
Better backup camera/nightvision - Pretty happy with the current setup
Ccs port for europe - For sure
Better turn radius - Never thought of it, not high priority
Heated seats(that actually heat) - Seconded
Model 3 air vents - Yup
Automatic camera cleaners - YES! Somehow!
Rain sensor - Yeah, the AI is severely lacking (maybe it works in CA rain...)
Double pan glass - Absolutely
Better sound insulation - 100%, very high priority
Heat pump - Yup
220volt outlet in the back - Ooooo, nice to have!
Chrome delete - Optional, sure
Some exterior change to make it look new - Yep
Higher quality on everything - Amen!
Trailer hitch option(is that the word for it?) Yes please, electric, controlled from the UI
Better armrest on center console - No biggie
Screen that flips - Uh... Nah!
2nd gear - Well, seems to work for Porsche

Must say, we're in sync, only my list is for the X! I humbly add:
HUD
4680 cells - their low volume production is perfect for S/X. 2170 is old news now.
Faster charging (dropping charge rate not until after 80%)

Surely, this can't be too much to ask!

 

[sillydriver]

Fair enough. I would like side view cameras.... and I'm not alone.

"Some estimates say that by just getting rid of side mirrors, aerodynamics could improve as much as 5% overall."

Tesla Wants To Eliminate Side Mirrors

To make the driver's side mirror really satisfactory on the S I've had to paste a small convex mirror from the auto parts store onto the surface of the side mirror. No doubt a video camera could handle the blind spot. Admittedly I drive with the seat far back so the B pillar is hard to see around.

 

[MarcG]

Must say, we're in sync, only my list is for the X! I humbly add:
HUD
4680 cells - their low volume production is perfect for S/X. 2170 is old news now.
Faster charging (dropping charge rate not until after 80%)

Surely, this can't be too much to ask!

I would be highly surprised if we see the 4680 cells this soon. During Battery day last September, Elon clearly stated production was still under development, and they still haven’t fully figured out the dry coating method reliably yet. But if I’m wrong I’ll be very happily surprised!

 

[FlatSix911]

Whale tail anyone?

Yes! Here's is a good example of design evolution with incremental improvements. Tesla has the right approach for a timeless design.

 

[Bill Price]

Maybe you should get out of the city?

Methinks Fargo IS out of the city?

 

[Bill Price]

Also doing my part to get this to 200 pages...

What he said.

 

[Bill Price]

Anyone think we can get to 200 pages before the reveal/earnings call? C’mon people, let’s do this...

Perhaps 300?

 

[Altair7]

Boooooring!... ;-)This body styling has for the most part been in production since 2012 and is getting a bit stale. I mean I still like the current S and think it's a good looking car, but I sure hoped for something that looked a bit more exciting like some of the renderings. Hopefully this is an intentionally subdued test car exterior and the real thing will have a bit more pizzaz. Side view mirrors are so 2020.... we want sideview cameras

I'm not sure ... the renderings I saw were so Camaroesque.

Agree on the side view mirrors. Very 1920. An anachronism.

 

[Altair7]

Assume an average of 15,000 miles per year, ~3.5 miles per kWh and an average US energy price of $0.13/kWh.

A 5% efficiency improvement saves you $27. A year.

In other words, a single repair for a fancy electronic mirror replacement system will negate any cost savings due to efficiency improvements for a good 10-20 years.

I’ll pass.

Aero is nice, the electricity savings not material as you say.

What it is really about is SA - situational awareness. SA = Safety = Lower accident/injury/insurance occurrences.

Mirrors have limited coverage, lots of head movement. Video mirrors have better coverage and can be put up on the dash supply, only short eye movement required to get the information you need.

 

[Uncle Paul]

I was not a big proponent of using cameras, until I got used to the back-up camera in my Tesla. Now I am much more confident backing into charging spots with the camera than using the mirrors.

 

[Zorg]

I was not a big proponent of using cameras, until I got used to the back-up camera in my Tesla. Now I am much more confident backing into charging spots with the camera than using the mirrors.

Until the system crashes and you lose your side cameras mirrors...

 

[Uncle Paul]

Then you could turn your head and look as well.

 

[DanCar]

Until the system crashes and you lose your side cameras mirrors...

I would design the system as foldable side mirrors. Below 50 mph, automatically deployed. Any system malfunction, automatically deployed. Can fold more deeply than current folding side mirrors.

 

[aerodyne]

Then you could turn your head and look as well.

And while you are waiting for Telsa to fix your failing MCU1, roll down the window to give hand signals while you're at it...

 

[Hayseed_MS]

And while you are waiting for Telsa to fix your failing MCU1, roll down the window to give hand signals while you're at it...

And which "hand signal" would that be??