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No, I work in a troll farm to write forum posts and have not sat in an actual car ;-)Nor mine. If the 3 had as much rear leg room as the S, I would have saved a lot of money...
To Olle with the measurements, Have you ever actually sat in the X, S, and 3 rear seats or even sat in an actual car? I doubt anyone who has ever sat in a S and 3 and not just looked at the measurements will say the rear seat leg room is the same. From those measurements, the 3 looks like it is the same size as the S or even slightly bigger
I believe the discrepancy arises not in the raw distance measurements but the height of the seat cushion from the floor of the car as well as the angulation of the rear seat to the floor of the car. That’s where you get the knees in the chest feeling with a low and angled seat. The model 3 cabin is smaller with less absolute headroom in the back so the seat is lower and more angled I believeThis rear legroom does not match my experience with both cars
No, I work in a troll farm to write forum posts and have not sat in an actual car ;-)
You thought I was serious? Yes we has Ss as primary cars for 6 years and have been in our friends' and neighbors Model 3s many times, with and without kids. I think back seats are similar in size.Sit in the back seats and get back to us afterwards.
Your post fits really well with today's revelation (just a few hours after you posted) that the 75 kwH pack is being discontinued - here's hoping that we see a new 115 kwH pack option to go along with the existing 100 kwH pack option!Tesla is fast tracking the China factory because of the trade war. They might want Asian Panasonic battery plants to at least initially make cells for China built cars until they can get the battery line in China going. That would require shifting the battery supply for the S/X to the GF1 in Nevada. It's possible they could just add a line making 18650s for the job, but they could redesign the battery pack at the same time. Jason Hughes who was one of the first to tear apart a Tesla battery pack, said there is plenty of room to fit 2170s into the current space of the pack, so while the modules would need to be redesigned, the car would not have to be heavily modified.
I would not be surprised if they had test mule S/X with 2170s before any Model 3 mules were available. Though those may have had very ad hoc packs.
I think I worked out that the larger pack with 2170s would be somewhere around 115 KWH if the cells have the same energy density. If Tesla did upgrade the S/X to 2170s, the smaller pack would be around 100 KWH and it would probably become the better seller if it isn't already.
Your post fits really well with today's revelation (just a few hours after you posted) that the 75 kwH pack is being discontinued - here's hoping that we see a new 115 kwH pack option to go along with the existing 100 kwH pack option!
Yes, I thought you were serious. Like I said, we would not have bought the S if the back seat leg room were the same for the S and 3. We could have bought TWO P3D+ insteadYou thought I was serious? Yes we has Ss as primary cars for 6 years and have been in our friends' and neighbors Model 3s many times, with and without kids. I think back seats are similar in size.
So we know the update is coming in 2019.
Is there any evidence to suggest if that will happen in the first half or the second half of 2019?
More information from Electrek... https://electrek.co/2019/01/09/tesla-discontinuing-75-kwh-battery-pack-model-s-model-x
Discontinuing the 75 kWh battery pack could be a first step toward changing the whole battery pack architecture for the Model S and Model X – most likely based on the new 2170 cells instead of the 18650 Panasonic cells that Tesla is using for those vehicles at the moment.
It could be a situation where Tesla is going to only produce the 100 kWh battery pack when upgrading the 75 kWh production line to the new battery cells. That’s one thing, but I also think that Tesla needs to come up with a new battery pack if the 75 kWh is going away. Will the 100 kWh become the base one and Tesla will come up with something even bigger?
We have both. The S has more legroom in the backYou thought I was serious? Yes we has Ss as primary cars for 6 years and have been in our friends' and neighbors Model 3s many times, with and without kids. I think back seats are similar in size.