ProjectTrinity
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Or it might be 4680lbs
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Mrbrock
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And dual laminated front windows. Lots of extra weight added but no chance in acceleration specs...
Id be happy to get 400 lbs out of it, and no range increase.
Place your bets!!! Mine: 4228.4
mine is 6942.0. It’s gonna have a 164 kWh battery with 4680‘s stacked on top of each other for 760 mile of range! The LR++++.
Ever since they rolled out those 82kwh batteries and didn't update the range, I've been waiting for some kind of increase. It's coming eventually, especially if they shed a few hundred pounds on top of that
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They have even though the increase didn’t match the kWh gained. Model Y went from 326 to 330 miles and model 3 from 353 to 358.
Correct, about a 1.3% increase. The MYP didn't gain anything I don't think. My point is that's nothing compared to the 9% increase in size. Combine that with the weight savings, they've got plenty of room to add range.... at least a comfortable 6-7%, and still be further below capacity than it was when they had the 72kw batteries.... 6-7% which would put the MY LR over 350.
The only other thing is the Ryzen processor..... which we've heard consumes considerably more energy and apparently has impacted range. I doubt its a crazy amount, hence 9% plus weight savings... conservative 6% increase in range possible.
We have no idea really, I just think the math checks out. Whether they'd actually do it.... I have no idea.
MYP already had the 82 kwh battery. It was the LR trim that gained it Mid-2021.
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leaftoy
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I never understood the math behind the claim that Ryzen could have appreciable impact on range.
Ah, that's a good point, a very good point. Well.... I maintain my bit about the LR possibly having room for improvement. MYP... I don't know if it was as equally tapped out as the LR all along or if it just had an even more intense restriction on usable capacity to begin with.
That said, MYP aside, I maintain the math works out for the LR!
Long story short, Tesla told a buyer in Australia it did... and adjusted their European range estimates... why folks in the US haven't gotten the same message or revised range estimates, I don't know. Perhaps they've just tapped into some of that hidden unused capacity for those models, perhaps it was an insane over-estimate of the impact made by Tesla to appease a government body. I have no idea why they'd send that to customers in Australia but not the US. Just going by what's been reported.
I would note that the European testing does already result in more advertised range than in the US, for what that's worth.
AMD Ryzen Affects The Range Of New Tesla Cars
The AMD Ryzen processor in the new Model 3/Model Y, that accelerates the entire infotainment/navigation, affects the range of the cars.
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I didn’t take this as a battery adjustment, but more so adjusting based on wheels. LR used to be 326 across the board. They made the Gemini wheels 330 and the induction 318.
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Mrbrock
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If we are to get dual glazed rear windows, ventilated seats, etc., etc., those all weigh something. Significant in the case of windows, not so much for seats and heated wipers. However, when you add it all up, maybe there isn't much weight savings at all and the main benefit to 4680 will be the supposed increase in longevity and everything else will remain the same. Lets just throw some darts at the Bingo card...
Considering car windshields typically weight 25-30 pounds, I think you may be overestimating the difference the updated glass will have.
Every little bit counts. Porsche uses gorilla glass on the rear window on some of their GT cars.. only to have them crack
Stress fracture in GT3RS Rear Window - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion ForumsOh I agree, I'm all for some high quality glass lol. I'm talking about the weight increase. I don't think the new glass is going to add 100+ pounds to the car lol. Then again, that may not of been what he meant when he said "If we are to get dual glazed rear windows, ventilated seats, etc., etc., those all weigh something. Significant in the case of windows, not so much for seats and heated wipers. However, when you add it all up, maybe there isn't much weight savings at all and the main benefit to 4680 will be the supposed increase in longevity and everything else will remain the same. "Every little bit counts. Porsche uses gorilla glass on the rear window on some of their GT cars.. only to have them crack
Mrbrock
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Have you opened a front door of a MY without dual glazed vs one with? Feels like way more than 20# difference. In total, 20# per door is 80#. That’s almost 100#. The battery day numbers were before dual glazed front windows correct? So you have to go back to that point and add in all the weight gains to get the sum difference. It’s looking like less than 200#.
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