Almost certainly Jasper, I got the VIN when it was approaching Panama. Grey wheels
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refjamie
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refjamie
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Hard to tell - I ordered a 'pre-ordered SR+ Midnight Silver' from the leasing company but Tesla say it wasnt placed with them until 21st Sept.
Grand Pioneer has picked up its pilot off Cherbourg (this is the 2nd ship to use Cherbourg instead of Brixham) and has an ETA for Zeebrugge of 11:00 tomorrow (Saturday)
It still does not feature on the Southampton scheduled arrivals list but bizarrely is still expected in Amsterdam on Sunday night.
We shall see.....
It still does not feature on the Southampton scheduled arrivals list but bizarrely is still expected in Amsterdam on Sunday night.
We shall see.....
Can someone tell me why we are turning of a safety feature? I get its loud that's the point. Kids run out in front of cars as it is even more so if they can't hear it. When someone kills a kid cos they have turned it of its going to be all over national news not just electric eV news. Also sounds selfish. Just wait till its adjusted a bit due to feedback.
It does just sound like some rich kid winging in that video
Glan gluaisne
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I'm not convinced it really is that useful as a supposedly safety feature. There are lots of ICE cars that have engines that are pretty much inaudible at very low speeds (and the noise maker on an EV is only required to operate at very low speeds). Tyre noise seems to be the dominant sound from a lot of cars, even ICE ones, at low speeds. I've been driving cars that are silent (in terms of no engine noise) at low speeds since 2005, over a total mileage of something like 150,000 miles. During that time I've never once had any issue, when driving forwards slowly, with pedestrians or cyclists not realising that the car was there. I have had issues in car parks with pedestrians not realising the car was starting to reverse, although the incidence of this happening has dropped markedly over the past few years (might be that people are getting used to quieter cars).
I like the idea of having a reversing sound, as long as it's under driver control. However, there are times when being able to drive off slowly, with no noise, is very useful, though, so having a car that makes a fair bit of noise getting it out of the garage at the crack of dawn, or putting it back very late at night, seems a bit antisocial. The noise irritation from car central locking systems that used to beep, or even sound the horn, soon led to manufacturers dropping this audible warning, for exactly this reason.
WannabeOwner
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I have not found that to be the case at very low speeds. I have had plenty of occasions where pedestrians had no idea I was there (approaching at slow speed), and also horse riders on country roads and bike riders on narrow tracks etc.
I think that the fact that some ICE cars are incredibly silent is not an argument for EVs not to have Sounders, but rather the fact that all "silent cars" should have them.
I'm dead against noise pollution, which seems to be a great benefit in town of EV compared to most ICE, and I would hate EV sounders to sound like reversing HGVs ... but from what I understand I don't think that will be the case, and some noise at very slow speed will help pedestrians, particularly blind etc. and I don't think it needs to be the cause of noise pollution, nor audible from inside the car.
I agree that the moment a reasonable speed has been reached the general tire and wind noise is sufficient for surrounding pedestrians etc., but at very low speed my experience has been that my car is silent as far as pedestrians are concerned.
There’s a thread for Pedestrian Warning Sound: M3 Pedestrian Warning Sound PWS
move along!
This is for OCD ship watching!
move along!
This is for OCD ship watching!
MrBadger
Badger out
Now I know how the Americans must feel when they stumble head long into our forums and talk about advanced summon or road trips that are longer than GB.
How did you find out that? I can see it changed course but are you just speculating for the reason or where does one see such info?
Jasper Arrow seems to have got slower then stopped? Another ship stopped nearby.
Vessel details for: JASPER ARROW (Vehicles Carrier) - IMO 9267912, MMSI 311919000, Call Sign C6UH9 Registered in Bahamas | AIS Marine Traffic
Vessel details for: JASPER ARROW (Vehicles Carrier) - IMO 9267912, MMSI 311919000, Call Sign C6UH9 Registered in Bahamas | AIS Marine Traffic
The ship near the Jasper Arrow is the Hoegh Africa - also a vehicle carrier. The live map shows it took a sudden turn to the south at about the same time that the Jasper Arrow changed course? Has the Jasper Arrow diverted to help a stricken ship? Pure speculation.
Vessel details for: HOEGH AFRICA (Vehicles Carrier) - IMO 9277814, MMSI 311594000, Call Sign C6TD3 Registered in Bahamas | AIS Marine Traffic
Vessel details for: HOEGH AFRICA (Vehicles Carrier) - IMO 9277814, MMSI 311594000, Call Sign C6TD3 Registered in Bahamas | AIS Marine Traffic
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