speedyranger74
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My experience taking Tesla to court about FSD
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If you look at the timeframes in my original post, it realistically will take 6-9 months for an action to work its way through.
LawLiner
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A question for those more legally versed than me.
I purchased a Model 3 with FSD in 2019 via Black Horse finance (the official or "default" finance company for Tesla at the time).
Legally speaking, it seems the finance company purchased the car from from Tesla, and then financed it to me.
How would I go about recovering the money for FSD, do I send the letter before action to Tesla or Black Horse?
I purchased a Model 3 with FSD in 2019 via Black Horse finance (the official or "default" finance company for Tesla at the time).
Legally speaking, it seems the finance company purchased the car from from Tesla, and then financed it to me.
How would I go about recovering the money for FSD, do I send the letter before action to Tesla or Black Horse?
It's probably worth a quick Google for "faulty car on finance", e.g. this page looks quite helpful:
Faulty Car Bought On Finance? Explaining Your Rights | Carplus FAQ
Are you worried that you bought a faulty car on finance in the UK? Check out the guide below to learn what should be done next and understand your consumer rights.
I think you take action against the finance company. Perhaps amend the LBA and address it to the finance company, then share the draft on here for comment?
LawLiner
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It seems you are correct, Ed:
www.businesscompanion.info
That's me out for now unfortunately, until someone with more experience than me can prove this is a viable route.
Part B: Your obligations under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (CRA) | Business Companion
Part B: Your obligations under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (CRA)
That's me out for now unfortunately, until someone with more experience than me can prove this is a viable route.
I'm guessing there are plenty of cars on finance and it's worth someone being a trailblazer here. I don't really see the claim is any different to mine, and it will be interesting to see how a finance company deals with it.
Finance is a curious one because they are the ones that own the car. The agreement to purchase FSD was between them and Tesla, funded by the person who took out the finance agreement.
I would have thought Tesla could strike out a claim on the basis that they have no contractual relationship with the end user of a vehicle under a finance agreement, although that might be muddied by the type of finance agreement (e.g. PCP vs leasing) ?
Definitely an interesting one to test though.
I would have thought Tesla could strike out a claim on the basis that they have no contractual relationship with the end user of a vehicle under a finance agreement, although that might be muddied by the type of finance agreement (e.g. PCP vs leasing) ?
Definitely an interesting one to test though.
MrBadger
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For those on a consumer finance agreement, or even paid a deposit on your credit card, section 75 may be your friend.
You might even be able to have your cake and eat it
You might even be able to have your cake and eat it
We're thinking about this a different way! I would take action against the finance company. I suspect they'll be more pragmatic than Tesla, and will see they're on a sticky wicket and hence settle before getting a court date. Whether they then take action against Tesla probably depends on how many of these cases they get.
You can add 3rd parties to a claim, and a magistrate can look at the whole thing & award the money to the finance company if necessary. It might be worth going directly via the finance company though to see if they'll bring the claim on your behalf.. they have a more expensive legal team.
shahryaran
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So you bought FSD, didn't like it and took Tesla to court.
Such a first world problem.
You could have subscribe for one month before buying it.
Such a first world problem.
You could have subscribe for one month before buying it.
this essentially applies to Tesla Loan as well. as tesla load provided by third party (Black Horse I think)...For those on a consumer finance agreement, or even paid a deposit on your credit card, section 75 may be your friend.
You might even be able to have your cake and eat it
I wonder, what is the treshold of "I am not satisfied with quality of goods"? 2 years and 42k miles - and then to claim I am not satisfied with quality of the car, radar removed, etc... :/
I bought something from a company, they didn't deliver it and I took them to court.
Glad I live in a first world democracy with strong laws to protect consumers.
Didn't consider subscribing to it because this wasn't an option in 2019.
Thanks for your input in the thread!
shahryaran
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I'm sorry but UK is not a democratic nation.
It is a unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy
No, you silly goose.
People bought FSD and there is no FSD in UK. Meaning they bought stuff which was not delivered.
Like you buy your car and they do not deliver.
but hey, muricans elect trump as president, so sanity in USA is really questionable thing
shahryaran
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