Why would you need a solicitor, with all the fees that would entail? Do it yourself following the process in the thread...
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My experience taking Tesla to court about FSD
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Zilla91
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The problem with that advice is that none of this will set a precedent so Tesla carry on as before and only refunding the few people that can actually be bothered to go through the whole process
If "you" cant be bothered to do the legwork that is "your" problem. Class actions are great and a solicitors dream.
People have told me before that "you are not going to save the world" ... As much as it pains me to say it 9/10 they were right.
If I had dropped £5k on something that didn't work, I could stomach a few e-mails to get my money back...
Zilla91
Active Member
Fine. This still doesn’t account for the fact that small claims don’t set a precedent so Tesla are free to go on fleecing other unsuspecting customers
Agree, they sell too many cars at this point and with good margins to fail at least in short to mid-term. Impossible to predict long term but it seems unlikely.
They should be doing this the right way for FSD Beta. It’s more like a Kickstarter funding program and that would be fine, it’s just not fine promising something when buying a product and not delivering what people paid for.
Let people invest in this if they want but make it clear it’s an investment that might amount to nothing.
Apropos of nothing but when I got taken to court I spoke to a solicitor who told me that I had a good case (don't they all?) but caveated that by saying that actually engaging her would cost more than the claim value, because in small claims legal costs aren't awarded, so it would become an entirely pyrrhic victory.
As it turned out she was very helpful anyway, and we exchanged about 50 emails about the case, and she was very reassuring on what was for me my first time ever being involved in a legal claim in any capacity.
Long story short - you are better off not claiming at all if you feel you have to engage a solicitor, because you will lose a big chunk of any settlement in legal fees.
As it turned out she was very helpful anyway, and we exchanged about 50 emails about the case, and she was very reassuring on what was for me my first time ever being involved in a legal claim in any capacity.
Long story short - you are better off not claiming at all if you feel you have to engage a solicitor, because you will lose a big chunk of any settlement in legal fees.
So if you feel strongly - why not progress a class action? Plenty of law firms out there that specialise in this.
speedyranger74
Member
@edb49 Thank you for bothering to make sure they removed gagging clauses, and then sharing this story with us. Very useful.
I am looking to get a refund for FSD for a Tesla Model Y ordered on 15/10/2021 and delivered on 18/03/2022. My order agreement lists "Full Self-Driving Capability" for £6800. There is no date mentioned for delivery of FSD. Does anyone have any experience pursuing a refund in this case?
I am looking to get a refund for FSD for a Tesla Model Y ordered on 15/10/2021 and delivered on 18/03/2022. My order agreement lists "Full Self-Driving Capability" for £6800. There is no date mentioned for delivery of FSD. Does anyone have any experience pursuing a refund in this case?
speedyranger74
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I'll add my pat on the back for @edb49. It's coming to the time that my patience has run out. Not just over non-fsd, but the endless regressions and evidence that my model S was never and most likely will never even be Full Self Driving Capable let alone actually self drive in any meaningful sense.
On that point, has anyone looked into the value of the claimed capability? For those who were banking on subscribing to FSD clearly the car needs to be able to demonstrate that it is Capable, as claimed.
On that point, has anyone looked into the value of the claimed capability? For those who were banking on subscribing to FSD clearly the car needs to be able to demonstrate that it is Capable, as claimed.
To try and keep everything in the open, someone asked me:
My reply:
My reply:
Pagemakers
Active Member
It would help them massively if they allow those of us who purchased FSD the option of carrying it over to a new Tesla purchase (and not just for the stupid period of a month or so as they recently did).
Jason71
Well-Known Member
So let me get this straight.
The company you are suing for not delivering something in a timely manner is asking for more time.
Well that seems entirely on brand then.
Another question I've replied to privately... asking why I started the interest calculation on the court claim from 1st Jan 2020. My answer to them:
I'm still undecided on whether I should just ask for the amount I paid for FSD (£5,800), or ask upfront for that plus interest @ 8% (in my case from 01/01/2021) per the claim directions.
On the one hand I'm not expecting them to cave at the first instance, but if they did I'd technically miss out on £1362.76 in interest as of today, which is probably my insurance premium for next year if I'm lucky.
On the one hand I'm not expecting them to cave at the first instance, but if they did I'd technically miss out on £1362.76 in interest as of today, which is probably my insurance premium for next year if I'm lucky.
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