I don't know Jeff, and I didn't call him unreasonable. I called his response to my honest advice to a close friend about a decision making factor that was important to him unreasonable. You should check what ad hominem means, and then read the things he said about my worthiness as a Tesla owner. Folks, you're just going to have to get used to it; when Tesla has shortcomings, they will be mentioned and occasionally, someone will make a recommendation that's counter to your expectations. Reacting as if someone is supposed to have absolute unquestioning belief and loyalty is moving in the direction of something really unhealthy. Maybe I could somewhat understand if this was a religion, but it's not. It's a car, objectively comparable to other cars, and frequently compared with feelings of superiority. Let's also set the record straight, I don't for a moment care if you disagree with me, that's your right and Jeff's too. But for him to say that I shouldn't be on this Tesla owners' forum because I have my friend honest advice won't go unchallenged. Who does he think he is? Supreme Arbiter of bona fides? It's more valuable than ever for Tesla to understand what chases potential customers away. Bill Gates, the most financially successful founder in three generations once said, "Our most critical customers are our greatest source of learning." I think Elon Musk knows that, and his most adoring fans owe that to him some of the time.