I still like the 3's turn signal stalk better. I also like how the drive stalk is overloaded as the AP stalk on the 3. The push-out cancel motion of AP stalk on the S to me is very unnatural, whereas on the 3 is flip up.
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I still like the 3's turn signal stalk better. I also like how the drive stalk is overloaded as the AP stalk on the 3. The push-out cancel motion of AP stalk on the S to me is very unnatural, whereas on the 3 is flip up.
Dont use turn signal handle. Pull back on AP once to confirm. It's much nicer. I have problems doing other way. Plus you dont have to turn off when done.
And we also know that at least Sentry and Dog Mode could work with AP2, but that Tesla doesn't want it to. So yes indeed, same question: are those features going to be added to AP2 cars when they're getting the new HW3 computer?
Since the latest update, the Automatic Lane Change works that way in Europe too (though we do not have NoA).
Yes, that part hasn't changed. Even in Europe, where we don't have NOA, as from 2019.4 you can slightly press on the blinker stalk and then on the steer. The car will check the surroundings and (if deemed safe) will initiate the auto-lane change. Once done, the blinker stops.
It works super fine.
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This is not true, using the automatic lane change (without NoA) you just have to 'tap' the turn signal to initiate (and not confirm) the auto-lane change then the turn signal will automatically turn off after the lane change completed (using it every day).
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Bumper
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I am confident I'll get some AP3 hardware. But others who ordered later and didn't buy FSD by the cut off will need to pay for the hardware upgrade. That is what I was referring to for the chart. As for Sentry mode and dashcam, I believe those have more to do with MCU2, not AP2.5. Regardless, I don't care about those features because my Blackvue "is watching, always watching -Roz". Dog mode I do want. But there isn't a limitation on AP2.5 or MCU2. It just hasn't been put in any widespread releases that go to AP2.0 cars yet. Pretty clear from the number of back to back releases last month and now a huge stall in updates that something isn't right with the code and they are testing something else.
Bumper
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I don’t remember the date but in 2018 I recall a cut off announcement. If you didnt have FSD on that car by that date, you were not guaranteed free hardware upgrade. I purchased FSD to get in on the deal. Basically upgrade insurance. But that does not mean Tesla wouldn’t honor the free upgrade for folks after that too. I think they just wanted to limit their liability as they started to ship a lot more cars. We just don’t know yet because it is not finalized. Tesla has shown frequently that offers and terms change.
@Bumper, your sentences can be read in two different ways. Which one is it?
1. others who ordered later and didn't buy FSD by the cut off will need to pay for the hardware upgrade [even if they buy FSD later]
2. others who ordered later and didn't buy FSD by the cut off will need to pay for the hardware upgrade [unless they buy FSD later]
1. If you didn't have FSD on that car by that date, you were not guaranteed free hardware upgrade [even if you buy FSD later]
2. If you didn't have FSD on that car by that date, you were not guaranteed free hardware upgrade [unless you buy FSD later]
1. others who ordered later and didn't buy FSD by the cut off will need to pay for the hardware upgrade [even if they buy FSD later]
2. others who ordered later and didn't buy FSD by the cut off will need to pay for the hardware upgrade [unless they buy FSD later]
1. If you didn't have FSD on that car by that date, you were not guaranteed free hardware upgrade [even if you buy FSD later]
2. If you didn't have FSD on that car by that date, you were not guaranteed free hardware upgrade [unless you buy FSD later]
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Bumper
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I'm not able to find anything that spells it out clearly. The closest I found was an article that price of EAP after delivery went up and a new note on Tesla's buy page that "After Delivery prices are subject to change". It is possible I inferred that they could raise the price of FSD at a later time and only those who already paid are protected by a free upgrade. I don't think anyone knows exactly what it will look like so we all seem to be passing around good guesses. My apologies for passing unverified info.
Tesla increases price of Autopilot when bought after delivery as it launches new features
Wow, works well. Thanks!
It’s a little iffy on the exits, sometimes does well, other times weaves enough to be worrisome, o/w the navigate on autopilot works well.
Here is an email that confirms all customers who pre-ordered FSD will get the free HW3 computer swap. Of course, those who ordered FSD after 28 Feb 2019 will also get the new computer because new FSD features like traffic light recognition won't work with the current computer.
Now I am confused....what $8000 cost of FSD being waived? are they talking about people who paid 5k for EAP + 3k for FSD before announcement and don't have another choice anyhow (except try to get a 1k refund)?Here is an email that confirms all customers who pre-ordered FSD will get the free HW3 computer swap. Of course, those who ordered FSD after 28 Feb 2019 will also get the new computer because new FSD features like traffic light recognition won't work with the current computer.
Bumper
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Interesting that is says Camera, radar, and ultrasonic are the same. I assume the context of this email is to people who would be ordering cars with AP 2.5, not folks that had 2.0.Here is an email that confirms all customers who pre-ordered FSD will get the free HW3 computer swap. Of course, those who ordered FSD after 28 Feb 2019 will also get the new computer because new FSD features like traffic light recognition won't work with the current computer.
boonedocks
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Tesomega
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Bumper
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Elon frequently lists some feature standard for AP2 when that really isn't true. Sentry mode and Dashcam are a great example. His tweet at the link below said anyone with AP2 hardware but what he really meant to say is AP2 hardware with MCU2 also. The email above was sent to employees to invite them to buy cars. This was sent when any car you order would be AP2.5 already. So even though it says cameras and radar are the same, those of us with AP2.0 hardware should not assume our cameras and radar are the same.
https://electrek.co/2019/01/22/tesla-sentry-mode-360-dashcam-elon-musk/
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