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Thanks for the pics Nigel. Yeah you could try waiting they might release the front pics.
Elon's got to sort him self, Tesla's becoming like Apple, style over substance. I swear to god you could fit more in a hatchback like the Honda Fit than the X.
Of course everyone is forgetting the other thing as to why the storage inside is so important..NO ROOF STORAGE ABILITY on an SUV...
The X is no longer an SUV it is like the Vauxhall Mokka, a raised hatchback for the elderly and immobile, a Motability car. Not that everyone who is getting an X is like that of course.
Elon's got to sort him self, Tesla's becoming like Apple, style over substance. I swear to god you could fit more in a hatchback like the Honda Fit than the X.
Of course everyone is forgetting the other thing as to why the storage inside is so important..NO ROOF STORAGE ABILITY on an SUV...
The X is no longer an SUV it is like the Vauxhall Mokka, a raised hatchback for the elderly and immobile, a Motability car. Not that everyone who is getting an X is like that of course.
scottf200
Well-Known Member
Looks like 2 was the closest but doesn't appear the pivot forward as much.
(Hope I gave credit to the right user for the graphic).
Image: http://i.imgur.com/gCD9O9E.png
(Hope I gave credit to the right user for the graphic).
Image: http://i.imgur.com/gCD9O9E.png
No roof storage? Oh I didn't realize this, but I guess it makes sense structurally.. Ok, I was planning on buying an X but definitely not anymore. The only new and cool factor would be the falcon-wing doors and autopilot (my S doesn't have the hardware for this). I can imagine a lot of people won't buy an X over an S unless they absolutely have to (eg. multiple kids).
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
I am also cautiously optimistic. Mainly because I want to have a two Tesla household and therefore want the Model X to fit our needs.
Apparently the line between "cautious optimism" and "wishful thinking" is a fairly narrow one
It astounds me that during the conception phase, falcon doors was a higher priority than folding seats in a sports UTILITY vehicle.
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
Think about the geometry of opening the falcon wing doors and having a roof rack
OK, maybe a very narrow roof rack for one ski
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Ha! We have both Buick and Chevy versions of that abomination here in the 'States. Is the Vauxhall version built in Korea, too?
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Was there a Gorn present at the photo shoot?
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
I think this is something that many of us have said over and over... all these delays because of the engineering challenges... challenges likely driven by something that is mostly a flight of fancy and a silly idea (falcon wings)... and instead we didn't get things that are crucial to "utility".
The pictures are pretty much in line with my expectations. I am very torn, but I am leaning towards canceling my reservation.
From the pictures, it's obvious that you will be able to fit in a lot of stuff. But the cargo capacity simply isn't as good as expected. Do I want to spend this much money on a car that might just marginally be "good enough"?
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From the pictures, it's obvious that you will be able to fit in a lot of stuff. But the cargo capacity simply isn't as good as expected. Do I want to spend this much money on a car that might just marginally be "good enough"?
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Yes, in all probability.
I'm curious.. Would skis fit in that space? Doesn't seem likely... Someone estimated about 55" of usable space (either in this thread or the other one). If I understand correctly, skis for a 6' person are ~6' so ~72 inches... No way the space is >72 inches... I'm sure that's a deal breaker for many people.
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
I can definitely fit my bike. The Model X is taller so the Model S is likely not to fit quite as many boxes. But my guess is it would be close. And I'd say the BMW X6 (which is very comparable to the Model X) might have more space
And let's better not mention the Acura MDX here
Yuri_G
Member
People are actually complaining about the falcon wing doors, still? We've known about them for years now. It's obvious the X was made with ease of ingress and egress in mind, first and foremost. The storage space is large, not the maximum space available, but it will be adequate for almost anyone. Take a deep breath, people and wait for the reveal/official specs.
I think people are now concerned that this gimmick feature may have caused many other useful features to be removed.
Here's the Q7 the X was due to replace:
JohnSnowNW
Active Member
Well, seems to have plenty of space for my needs. Then, again, I don't go surfing here in MN.
I didn't realize people who routinely haul things that wouldn't fit in this Model X configuration would use something other than a pick-up to do so. Learn something new everyday, I guess.
I didn't realize people who routinely haul things that wouldn't fit in this Model X configuration would use something other than a pick-up to do so. Learn something new everyday, I guess.
Using that picture that Tesla provided today, my best guesstimate, using the 22" inch wheels as size markers, it looks like the Model X will have approximately 77" inches of storage front to back, which is what the Model S has. Plus the Model X has more vertical storage at the back and a lot more vertical storage at the front (by the second row seats since there is room all the way to the floor there).
This works for me. I wasn't expecting much extra storage over the S, since the X was ALWAYS described as being built on the same platform as the S.
As compared to the S, the X will give you true 7 person seating, more vertical storage, towing, a bigger frunk (New Frunk info (9/15)), and seats that appear resistant to having kid's footprint marks all over the back (this isn't a small feature if you have kids!). Hopefully there will be some other hidden features too, like a better autopilot sensor suite, and improved rear ventilation.
This works for me. I wasn't expecting much extra storage over the S, since the X was ALWAYS described as being built on the same platform as the S.
As compared to the S, the X will give you true 7 person seating, more vertical storage, towing, a bigger frunk (New Frunk info (9/15)), and seats that appear resistant to having kid's footprint marks all over the back (this isn't a small feature if you have kids!). Hopefully there will be some other hidden features too, like a better autopilot sensor suite, and improved rear ventilation.
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
Let's get this out of the way. Yes, people are still complaining about the gimmicky falcon wing doors. Ease of ingress and egress? Sure. Sliding doors on minivans have shown us how to do that for years.
The falcon wing doors seemed cool to Elon. And that's why we have them. They require more space when opening compared to sliding doors. They require significantly more complicated design. They prevent a roof rack.
Please, let's keep this thing at least loosely reality based. This isn't a GOP presidential debate...
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