Except that ShotgunF15E's was produced on 3/11 and he's seen the highest yet at 511KW.
Except he hasn't added it to the spreadsheet, so I missed it.
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Except that ShotgunF15E's was produced on 3/11 and he's seen the highest yet at 511KW.
So if I don't submit data to this spreadsheet, we can't see the table? can you open up the table for everyone to see as read-only?
Also, shouldn't we collect data at various SOC, and not just at 90%? the kw and SOC field should be two separate fields. By the way, the description that say "(Max Batt ON)" should say something like " (Max Batt ON and Ready)"
I suspect that you don't actually get additional power from max battery until it registers as ready.
This is not my area of expertise, so perhaps others will chime in, but personally I doubt that.
My understanding is that the reason the extra power can be made with max battery power enabled is that the battery is warmer. Tesla would have no reason to limit the power output just because the max battery temperature threshold had not been reached. A battery warmed almost to the threshold should be able to make almost as much power as one warmed to the threshold, all other things being equal.
...not only that, but I made more power on a supercharge to 91% without max battery than a slow charge to 91% with max battery and since we already know that supercharging to 85% heats the battery up more than max battery and turning off max battery and running with it ready returns the same results as keeping it on when it's ready pretty much proves that it's temperature related and not whether the setting is actually turned on or not.
...not only that, but I made more power on a supercharge to 91% without max battery than a slow charge to 91% with max battery and since we already know that supercharging to 85% heats the battery up more than max battery and turning off max battery and running with it ready returns the same results as keeping it on when it's ready pretty much proves that it's temperature related and not whether the setting is actually turned on or not.
thanks! instead of just showing the highest power (kw) in various SOC, can you show all the data (not just the highest) in various SOC? More useful to see the variance.
...not only that, but I made more power on a supercharge to 91% without max battery than a slow charge to 91% with max battery and since we already know that supercharging to 85% heats the battery up more than max battery and turning off max battery and running with it ready returns the same results as keeping it on when it's ready pretty much proves that it's temperature related and not whether the setting is actually turned on or not.
... I assume max battery just warms the battery to optimal temp and once it's ready, turning it off or on makes no difference.
... So if we are going to log "max battery off" on the spreadsheet, we might want to clarify that this test should occur with a "cool" battery, not immediately after a warm battery that is "ready". Hope that makes sense.
Is that true? Thought it was software only on later P90D's as all the hardware was already included?You are supposed to get the 1500 Amp smart fuse, and some kind of space-grade contact at the battery with your Ludicrous upgrade. It is a hardware upgrade.
The 1ft rollout doesn't apply to the quarter mile time in your time slip.
The one foot rollout is used to give an approximation of a 0-60 time you would get on a drag strip.
GPS devices can be set to allow for the 1ft rollout. Or to not allow for it.
Edmunds is the only U.S. based car magazine, (as well as CU which is not a car mag) that I can think of which does not use rollout when evaluating vehicles.
Thus if you see a 0-60 time in MT or C&D, or in an American automakers specs, then it is usually with rollout.
And will be about .3 seconds quicker than a real 0-60 from a dead standstill.
Some automakers use a 0-60 number using rollout across their product line.
Some use a 0-60 number using rollout for their performance models.
Chevy has done this with one version of their Camaro.
This is done to make a manufacturer's 0-60 times look comparable and competitive to those of his competitors offerings who might be using rollout in their own 0-60 spec. .
However a quarter mile spec you see is what you should hit on your timeslip if you've run the spec.
Although there may be merit to this new pack actually being a 100kw version, for it to produce a higher voltage (and power on the existing -1500A limitation), it is would need to be charged very close to the 100kw capacity / max allowed voltage which is yet to be enabled / supported if it is indeed a 100. The way to prove this is to show a full to empty drive exceeding -90kw consumed. Also odd to promote the 75 upgrade but skip announcing the 100 at the same time when batteries are in the field. Is it because the yield proved poor and they had to revert to 90s again?
Has anyone determined how Tesla goes about limiting the batteries that are software restricted? Do they take the excess capacity off the top or bottom or some combination?
In other words, when someone charges their software limited 60kWh car to 100% Rated Range are they really charging the battery to 80% of its true capacity? Or is that 100% of its capacity and when it shows 0% remaining you really have 20% hidden in there? Or is it 10% off the top and 10% off the bottom?
Mike
Another business opportunity -
"...yes sir Mr. IRanOutaJuice, for a $100 charge to your credit card we can activate a one time extra 35 miles for you over the phone..."
EDIT: I guess it's possible they could "float" the 80% usage - sometimes letting the battery charge to true 100% and other times not. This would all be completely hidden from the user, he/she just sees 0 - 100% of 60 kWh worth of battery.
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What makes it worse (if it is all true) is that the link on the tesla order page advertising the 10.9@122 was actually from what now appears to be by a future prototype car not the one the customers were actually buying. Not only did it contain a launch control not available at that time but now seemingly also an entirely different battery to achieve the numbers ... The customer was asked to pay a premium (in each the range update, ludicrous update cost over 85, and a 10.9@122 car ...) without any clear value atm
Where's the battery sticker located?
As I understand it, the 1 foot rollout concept is something used to duplicate shallow (or even regular, but not deep) staging at a dragstrip. A true exact 1/4 mile time from a dead stop will be more than a shallow stage reported 1/4 mile time at a drag strip. The reason is explained in detail here The Importance of 'Rollout' - Feature but in short when you shallow stage, you get up to 12 inches of headstart before tripping the timer at a dragstrip when your tire leaves the second staging light. So you aren't starting the 1/4 mile at a total dead stop but rather you have whatever speed you can gather in those first few inches -- with a shallow staged Tesla that can be a lot. So shallow staging at a dragstrip will get an artificially lower 1/4 mile timeslip -- but still a time slip is the most authoritative thing we have so we take it anyway. And we game the system to shallow stage to get a lower time.
I don't know why magazines and car companies use a rollout for 0-60 times. drag strips cant and don't report 0-60 times so that just seems dumb to artificially give rollout advantages to 0-60 times.