Newer P90DL makes 662 hp at the battery!!!

[Tech_Guy]

I know on paper the P90DL won't be faster then the Rimac but I do always wonder if they got all the settings correct before doing these tests. This is true on any youtube comparison video for that matter specifically Max Battery Power I've found lots of videos where people who don't own one and are just testing the car get confused thinking that the blue max battery power means that its on vs physically selecting it and having it say "Ready!"

 

[NSX1992]

Several places I looked the curb weight for the Model S is the number I'm using. Same for the Model X. Why would they list fully optioned for one and base for the other?

My P90D with very few options: 4996 lbs. So I don't think 4936 is a fully optioned weight. But I can't find the numbers for the Model S on Tesla's site. Where did you see them? I'm not trying to hoodwink you, I'm just using the information that's available to me. If you have a better source, I'd be happy to look at it.

Interesting that your P90D with very few options weighs 4996 lbs yet others believe the MT weight of 46xx is real.

 

[P85DEE]

For those that don't think any more performance can be squeezed out of a 90kWh battery, take a look at what Rimac has done with an 82kWh battery: 0-60 in 2.69 seconds and quarter mile in 9.92 seconds.

Concept_One vs. Tesla P90D vs. LaFerrari | Rimac Automobili

That's impressive.

 

[TIppy]

Interesting that your P90D with very few options weighs 4996 lbs yet others believe the MT weight of 46xx is real.

Yeah, I already posted that the weight probably isn't accurate.

 

[lolachampcar]

$1mm for a concept one......
Hmmm, I wonder if McLaren and Ferrari are paying attention
One of these SC enabled would be a nice toy although I think I could do without the gearbox.

 

[commasign]

Tesla should just buy Rimac. They could keep it as a separate brand but there would likely be mutually beneficial technology sharing.

 

[Perfecti]

I'm a long time lurker on this thread and a v1 P90DL owner. Ordered in August 2015 before the original Motor Trend article so the 10.9 number had no impact on my decision. It was a little annoying to have to explain to people at the track that I would not be running 10.9s (although it was easy to explain the situation to track people back then, just say "ringer" and they say "oh, that sucks").

My best pass to date is 11.39 with a 60' time of 1.72, so my biggest problem is finding a better track and getting a decent launch off the line.

There are two things about this situation that I find frustrating:

Tesla has never publicly acknowledged that there are two different P90DL versions. A peak power difference near 10% is a huge amount! This is going to cause problems in the CPO market later on because there is no officially sanctioned way to know which car is which.

I would like to know how many dollars it would cost to upgrade my v1. Running 10.80 is absolutely bonkers and opens the door to a 10.79 under perfect conditions. Right now the price tag is "buy another P90DL" which is too high, but if they offered an upgrade I would give it serious consideration.

Same frustration...I ordered my P90DL November, and as I found out recent there is at least 3 different version of P90DL, and the performance all diff widely. Hopefully, Tesla gives out an upgrade option when the 100 comes out..

 

[lolachampcar]

Oh the joy of constant improvement.......
Feels a lot like constant disappointment.

 

[St Charles]

Same frustration...I ordered my P90DL November, and as I found out recent there is at least 3 different version of P90DL, and the performance all diff widely. Hopefully, Tesla gives out an upgrade option when the 100 comes out..

I know the 1070394-00-A battery will fit in the Classic Model S and can output 500kW. That's what I have. No idea if you can order a specific model of battery though.

There is a rumor that a 100kW upgrade will not be possible from Tesla. Probably not a surprise to many here.

 

[sorka]

How many people do you think are actually this careful with their vbox sport.

I don't think they are numerically integrating doppler for relative position.

What is this statement based on?

"
Distance
GPS satellites are equipped with an atomic clock, which ensures timing stability to less than one-millionth of a second. By integrating Doppler-derived speed with this level of time signal reliability, an extraordinarily accurate distance measurement is achieved.



There are a number of tests which we have carried out over the years to verify and improve our measurement algorithms for applications in vehicle testing.

One such test is to place two reflective strips on the road at a known distance apart. Using a laser sensor connected to the trigger input of a VBOX, the vehicle is then driven between these two points a number of times, and the distances compared. In such tests, the VBOX 3i will always be within 3cm in 1000m, which is about the same as the measurement uncertainty due to the slight deviation of the vehicle during the driving.
"

So is Racelogic lying?

Note, I inserted the wrong paragraph but realized it only after I hit the submit. So any email notifications have the wrong quote.

 

[sorka]

Anyone care to guess on the P100D's current and power? I'm guessing 1760 amps and a nice even 550KW just for fun.

 

[msnow]

I know the 1070394-00-A battery will fit in the Classic Model S and can output 500kW. That's what I have. No idea if you can order a specific model of battery though.

There is a rumor that a 100kW upgrade will not be possible from Tesla. Probably not a surprise to many here.

Its sort of a surprise because when the 90 came out last year Elon said that people who had 85's should wait to upgrade until the extra kW increase justified the cost.

 

[sorka]

Its sort of a surprise because when the 90 came out last year Elon said that people who had 85's should wait to upgrade until the extra kW increase justified the cost.

That was probably very good advice. He of course knew they were already working on the 100 kWh battery at that point.

 

[fiksegts]

I just ran 0-60 MPH in 2.65 seconds in the P90DL V2 Refresh with a 107x battery on the OEM 19" Tires, the car is nutz...

 

[St Charles]

That's the 1071941-00-C or 1071394-00-A?

I just ran 0-60 MPH in 2.65 seconds in the P90DL V2 Refresh with a 107x battery on the OEM 19" Tires, the car is nutz...

 

[fiksegts]

1941

That's the 1071941-00-C or 1071394-00-A?

 

[msnow]

That was probably very good advice. He of course knew they were already working on the 100 kWh battery at that point.

Yep but if they made some other changes to the car such as wiring or something else and people can't upgrade ever that would be disappointing.

 

[St Charles]

Yep but if they made some other changes to the car such as wiring or something else and people can't upgrade ever that would be disappointing.

Truth. Hopefully the classic Model S isn't forgotten.

 

[_TTT_]

1941

Did you use launch mode? Max battery ready? 1 foot roll out?

 

[TIppy]

What is this statement based on?

I stand corrected. Normally, integrating the speed would lead to drift over time, but i looks like over these short time intervals they've determined that it's accurate. This is with there very expensive 3i units. Do they use it on their less expensive units? Earlier you were talking about the small short term drift in the position data that made distance measurements accurate. That's why I thought they were using position data. They didn't mention acceleration.

All my statements about sources of error still hold for doppler accuracy.